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Old 05-24-2005, 06:34 PM
Marnixvdb Marnixvdb is offline
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Default Re: Laying it down

OK, so your raise wasnt a minraise. If I read your OP correctly, pot was ~$75 on the flop. Villain bets $25, you raise it, making it $75 to go. So he has to call another $50 on a pot of $175. This is not a big raise at all. Then you bet $100 on the turn, into a pot of $225 - less than half the pot. Finally, your allin on the river is app. half a potbet. His bet on the flop is weak, but I cant see how your raise is strong. It's hard from his perspective to put you on a hand that beats him - other than AT or JJ - or a very tricky played overpair or set. But like you said: he is not the player to lay down hands when he smells his opponent is getting tricky on him.

If you actually had a strong hand that would surely beat him, you wouldve played it perfectly - building the pot slowly but surely, comitting him more on every street.

You never decided what you were doing in this hand: you bet too little to push him off a better hand, yet you bet too much for the value of your hand.
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:47 PM
Jester999 Jester999 is offline
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I never imagined someone would raise to 25 with K10 Preflop. I find that to be a perpostourous play.

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That kind of thinking has cost me my stack many times over as I've climbed up from the kiddie pen.
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Old 05-24-2005, 08:18 PM
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Don't bluff the fish. But if you try your flop raise should have been bigger say a 100. If he calls it does'nt look like he is going to get off the hand.
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Old 05-24-2005, 08:50 PM
DeadMoneyOC DeadMoneyOC is offline
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Just out of curiosity, how did the button manage to check-call on fourth and fifth?

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I was thinking the same thing but then the original poster said that he was actually the villian so he probably just got confused when he was making the post.
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Old 05-25-2005, 10:35 AM
emil3000 emil3000 is offline
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Default Re: Laying it down

And also, it's not a preposterous play. Everybody's shown weakness and there's decent money in the pot for taking. If he get's called his hand isn't a good one, but at least it's better than nothing. I can see myself making this raise very easily. You should give a wide range of hands to big button raises after a couple of limpers. Dependent on the raiser of course, but stealing from the limpers is a common practise even for tight players.
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Old 05-25-2005, 11:02 AM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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your post is really confusing... how the hell does this guy have the button, then check/call?? WTF? the KT guys play is quite bad... the 99 play is easily worse...
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