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03-02-2005, 07:39 PM
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22-44 EP Party 0.5/1.0 Poll
Ok, so the consensus of the guys with lots of posts here is that limping with 22-44 in Early Position is clear always in Party 0.5/1.0. So let's see your stats.
PLEASE READ: Only fill out this poll if you A) Play any of the hands 22 through 44 in Early Position (limp or raise) B) Have more than 10,000 hands total C) Play Party or Party skin 0.5/1.0 This is in the name of science and really not to prove a point either way. If 22-44 are profitable UTG on Party 0.5/1.0 I want to see the numbers so that I can add it. Here's the procedure. 1)So open up poker tracker. 2)Do a filter and select specific hands, then select 22, 33 and 44 only. Then choose More than or Equal to 5 off the button (just a little below the Select Specific HAnds... button) 3)If your VPIP is greater than 0% for these hands and the number of total times you've had it is greater than say 20, report your win rate in BB/Hand. 
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03-02-2005, 07:54 PM
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Re: 22-44 EP Party 0.5/1.0 Poll
I can't vote, b/c I play 2/4. I changed my philosophy about the low PPs after I left .5/1, so my PT stats are no good.
But at 2/4, I'm .32/100 over 10k hands. This seems a high to me, so maybe I was running hot.
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03-02-2005, 08:04 PM
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Re: 22-44 EP Party 0.5/1.0 Poll
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But at 2/4, I'm .32/100 over 10k hands. This seems a high to me, so maybe I was running hot. [/ QUOTE ] So limping 22 UTG in 2-4 is standard for? Or just at the right tables? I think with a decent table selection 22 is limpable, but still there are plenty of 2-4 tables that I would not limp them in.
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03-02-2005, 11:28 PM
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Re: 22-44 EP Party 0.5/1.0 Poll
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[ QUOTE ] I can't vote, b/c I play 2/4. so maybe I was running hot. [/ QUOTE ] Rub it in why doncha? Jackass. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] don't even get me started.....
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#6
03-03-2005, 12:27 AM
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Re: 22-44 EP Party 0.5/1.0 Poll
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I can't vote, b/c I play 2/4. so maybe I was running hot. [/ QUOTE ] Rub it in why doncha? Jackass. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] don't even get me started..... [/ QUOTE ] heh, sorry dudes. Believe me, it gets better. LOTS better. Just ask shill, I think he knows. If its any consolation, I dropped 75 BB in less that 500 hands when I first moved from 1/2 to 2/4. Had to go back to 1/2 for a while. But then when I came back, cake! Except for now while the bonus is running, that is. Between .5/1, 1/2 and 2/4 my favorite is 2/4, and it's not close.
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#7
03-03-2005, 12:38 AM
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Re: 22-44 EP Party 0.5/1.0 Poll
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If its any consolation, I dropped 75 BB in less that 500 hands when I first moved from 1/2 to 2/4. Had to go back to 1/2 for a while. But then when I came back, cake! Except for now while the bonus is running, that is. [/ QUOTE ] Hijacking this thread . . . but I'm curious. I started playing 2/4 about the same time as you and I hit a pretty big downswing after moving. After lots of hand history review, statistical analysis, etc. I attributed my downswing to: (1) being really cold-decked; (2) adjusting my game to the new limit and its player tendencies; (3) some stupid play on my part about which I should know better; and (4) some mistaken play on my part about which I probably shouldn't necessarily have known better because I am a novice player at the game and learning something new every day. All those reasons in no particular weighted order. What I found interesting (and why I'm hijacking this thread) is that I found the 2/4 game softening during the bonus period -- I speculated that a bunch of TAGs went down to 0.5/1 or 1/2 to clear bonuses (though I'm not sure why people do this if they'll play 1400 raked hands in a 7-day period regardless) -- I felt like the 2/4 was juicier during the bonus and I remember feeling the 1/2 got thinner during bonus time from my time there.
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#8
03-02-2005, 07:55 PM
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Re: 22-44 EP Party 0.5/1.0 Poll
This is one of the better polls I have seen in a while. I like what you are doing here.
Of course individual results will be skewed since even those of us with 10k+ hands will have a small enough sample for such a subset to be representative (though in fairness I'm sure you realize this). My results are skewed by 22, which has done really poorly (-.83). I am break even with 33 and .24 up with 44 under the conditions you established. Again, nice poll.
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#9
03-02-2005, 08:35 PM
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Re: 22-44 EP Party 0.5/1.0 Poll
Thanks Greg J.
Yes, the sample size sucks butt.... in addition, some peoples votes should be more heavily weighted than others based on sample size. But alas, there's no way to do this with the current state of polling software here. However, they should be that "skewed"... just all over the damn place. I specifically made it 5 or more OTB and 22-44 to increase the numbers (and also to increase the confidence that 22 is not playable 7 OTB if the poll turns out to show that none of these are profitable in EP). Again, this isn't conclusive, just evidence that I want.
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#10
03-02-2005, 08:28 PM
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Re: 22-44 EP Party 0.5/1.0 Poll
Woohoo first reply with a + winrate. Had 22-44 79 times in EP out of 15,123. BB/hand for me is 0.04 I win with these 15% of the time. I think that number is almost right where it should be, considering that you'll hit your set 12% of the flops you see.
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