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Old 09-28-2005, 04:46 PM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default Re: Interesting Hand from WPT Aruba

what kind of hand are you representing here with this play?
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:48 PM
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what kind of hand are you representing here with this play?

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I'd say 77-99 or AJs-AQs. But let's see what Justin says.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Hand from WPT Aruba

awesome.. very nice (regardless of the result).. i could see how maybe the aggressive guy would trap the initial raise, but once that SB did his accidental raise then aggressive guy would have been all over that pot (it's pretty juicy, obviously). And your raise is pretty damn big, and i think your fold equity is pretty good, and like you've said when you get called you're going to be like 43%.

Takes guts, and i really, really like it.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Hand from WPT Aruba

Oh, and i think you'd have gotten a better response posting this in the MTT forum.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:34 PM
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I like the move, takes a lot of guts and I think is a winning strategy.
The only real drawback would be if you got called, won the hand (which is not as unlikely as some seem to assume) and then had to stay at the table for awhile. You'd have to adjust your game to your radically changed image and that would not be easy (well it's the kind of thing that isn't easy for me anyway).
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:47 PM
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I like the move, takes a lot of guts and I think is a winning strategy.
The only real drawback would be if you got called, won the hand (which is not as unlikely as some seem to assume) and then had to stay at the table for awhile. You'd have to adjust your game to your radically changed image and that would not be easy (well it's the kind of thing that isn't easy for me anyway).

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That would be the perfect image. They would have no clue what to think of me. I am tight, but I risk all my chips with J9s?! I play one hand every 30 minutes, but it's a bluff? What do I do when I get a real hand?! They would have no clue how to play against me.

I certianly don't make plays like this very often, so if they start getting suspicious of my big all-ins, that's great for me.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:49 PM
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I like the move, takes a lot of guts and I think is a winning strategy.
The only real drawback would be if you got called, won the hand (which is not as unlikely as some seem to assume) and then had to stay at the table for awhile. You'd have to adjust your game to your radically changed image and that would not be easy (well it's the kind of thing that isn't easy for me anyway).

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That would be the perfect image. They would have no clue what to think of me. I am tight, but I risk all my chips with J9s?! I play one hand every 30 minutes, but it's a bluff? What do I do when I get a real hand?! They would have no clue how to play against me.

I certianly don't make plays like this very often, so if they start getting suspicious of my big all-ins, that's great for me.

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I agree completely. This is why I advocate a show if everyone folds to your all-in here.
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:11 PM
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I like the move, takes a lot of guts and I think is a winning strategy.
The only real drawback would be if you got called, won the hand (which is not as unlikely as some seem to assume) and then had to stay at the table for awhile. You'd have to adjust your game to your radically changed image and that would not be easy (well it's the kind of thing that isn't easy for me anyway).

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That would be the perfect image. They would have no clue what to think of me. I am tight, but I risk all my chips with J9s?! I play one hand every 30 minutes, but it's a bluff? What do I do when I get a real hand?! They would have no clue how to play against me.

I certianly don't make plays like this very often, so if they start getting suspicious of my big all-ins, that's great for me.

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Yea, I could see how that would be the case. My thinking was that even while playing tight (which would be my day 1 approach) you want to have the power to execute semi-bluffs and get people to lay down the best hand when a good pf hand missed the board.

Perhaps this doesn't apply to better players, but if I had a very loose image while the blinds are still very small I fear I would be at the mercy of the cards, in that I could score huge if I got good cards, but would be completely handcuffed by a cold deck.

Yet, under the hypothetical we are talking about you would be doubling up here, so even if you didn't play another hand until the table break, you would be in fine shape.

So I can see where the maniac image would actually be a benefit if skillfully handled.
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:40 PM
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I like the move, takes a lot of guts and I think is a winning strategy.
The only real drawback would be if you got called, won the hand (which is not as unlikely as some seem to assume) and then had to stay at the table for awhile. You'd have to adjust your game to your radically changed image and that would not be easy (well it's the kind of thing that isn't easy for me anyway).

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That would be the perfect image. They would have no clue what to think of me. I am tight, but I risk all my chips with J9s?! I play one hand every 30 minutes, but it's a bluff? What do I do when I get a real hand?! They would have no clue how to play against me.

I certianly don't make plays like this very often, so if they start getting suspicious of my big all-ins, that's great for me.

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I may not be as experienced as you are Justin, but I do love the impression that you can put on people when your playing history at the table speaks for itsself (1 hand every 30 minutes or so). This tight image can confuse players greatly, and the confusion will generally create fear in them, I can get the same kind of respect when I push all in at the casinos as well, even if I do have a semi-marginal hand people will be too confused to call or feel way behind if they do.
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:22 PM
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The only real drawback would be if you got called, won the hand (which is not as unlikely as some seem to assume) and then had to stay at the table for awhile. You'd have to adjust your game to your radically changed image and that would not be easy

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Whereas most people would assume that doubling up would be the best outcome of an all-in...I believe you slightly overemphasize meta-game considerations.
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