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Old 12-21-2005, 02:09 AM
stoxtrader stoxtrader is offline
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Default I\'m definitely over my head...

and you can laugh at me...

apologies in advance for the format, and I didnt know how to adjust for a shortstack opponent here... no read, whats a good default line?

Seat 1: BradMajors
Seat 2: MopITup
Seat 3: B_O_K_E
Seat 4: stoxtrader4 [ A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] ($11,263.00 in chips)
Seat 5: CMsuited
Seat 6: wannaabe
Seat 8: the_lark ($1,871.00 in chips)
Seat 9: mih2099
Seat 10: bedeviling ($5,025.00 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
bedeviling posts blind ($25), BradMajors posts blind ($50).

PRE-FLOP
MopITup folds, B_O_K_E folds, stoxtrader4 bets $150, CMsuited folds, wannaabe folds, the_lark calls $150, mih2099 folds, bedeviling calls $125, BradMajors folds.

FLOP [board cards K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] (pot = 500)
bedeviling checks, stoxtrader4 bets $400, the_lark calls $400, bedeviling folds.

TURN [board cards K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
stoxtrader4.... (pot is 1300, opponent has approx 1300 behind)
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:20 AM
scdavis0 scdavis0 is offline
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Default Re: I\'m definitely over my head...

check fold looks good
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: I\'m definitely over my head...

Fold equity=0
Odds=not there
Play=check/fold
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: I\'m definitely over my head...

This is not a 100% fold unless we know opponents stats, how often does he call this flop and you're ahead?
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:56 AM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
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Default Re: I\'m definitely over my head...

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This is not a 100% fold unless we know opponents stats, how often does he call this flop and you're ahead?

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Not often enough.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: I\'m definitely over my head...

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Fold equity=0
Odds=not there
Play=check/fold

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i think the shortie most likely has either a K or pocket pair here, and is willing to go broke with both. From my experience with short stacks, once they call a flop bet and the pot approaches the size of their stack, they rarely fold. Him being on a flush draw is unlikely. I think any bet is -EV, and you don't have odds to call a bet. Pray he really is bad and gives you a free card, or just fold to a bet. I would consider betting river (about 600-750) if he checks turn though.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: I\'m definitely over my head...

we need some reads on villain. If this is UB 25/50 i'm not folding this hand on the turn. your equity against 88 is huge; and you almost have odds to push- so you need almost no fold equity. I think he also has 89 or clubs here a fair % of the time. I think i might actually chk/call.
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:10 AM
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Who likes checking the flop to avoid this situation?
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:16 AM
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Who likes checking the flop to avoid this situation?

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crickets chirping
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:21 AM
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