Can you ever fold KK preflop? NL25

[RiverTheNuts]

Im at NL 25 with about 65 bucks, dude across from me has 45 and has been playing very solidly..

I raise my KK to 2, get reraised to 6, I reraise to 15, he goes all in ... at this point I am 90% sure he has AA ...

I call anyways and get shown the news... Im not crying about bad luck, it happens, but I mean is there ever a time when folding KK can be considered sane?

[amoeba]

when there is raise, reraise, reraise, all-in or raise, reraise, all in

and in both cases I am still not pot committed, I lay down KK.

If I raise, and I get reraised all in straight up preflop, unless if it was a limp reraise all in, I call with KK.

[schwza]

here, no, you can't fold.

i posted this question in mid/high forum a few weeks ago. we were 200 bb's deep and playing NL200 and the consensus was that i should have folded. the title was "am i sucker if..."

[amoeba]

To translate your betting sequence.

you bet $2 "I have AK, AQ, AJ, KK, QQ, JJ, TT ,AA"

he raises to $6 " I have QQ, KK, AA, maybe AKs"

you reraise to $15 " I have AA, KK"

he goes all in " I'm not afraid of your AA, KK"

50% split pot, 50% big dog.

I'll word it a different way. If your $15 reraise purpose was to induce him to go all in, then you should call as you got him to do what you wanted. If your $15 reraise was an information raise and in this case I think thats what it is, then I think you got the information you wanted and you should have folded.

[kyro]

i've had a very similar sequence as this at party and been shown down A4o.

don't fold

[Piz0wn0reD!!!!!!]

I have folded KK once preflop at levels lower than 200NL

[jedi]

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i've had a very similar sequence as this at party and been shown down A4o.

don't fold

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Im at NL 25 with about 65 bucks, dude across from me has 45 and has been playing very solidly..


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This line turns it into a fold. Max buy-in is 25, so opponent is almost twice as deep as you started. If I had only $25, I'd call without a second thought. The fact that you're deeper and that villian has been solid makes me pause here.

[Sponger15SB]

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I have folded KK once preflop at levels lower than 200NL

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I think folding KK preflop at lower levels is a very bad idea. More often that not you won't be shown AA.

[Sponger15SB]

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I have folded KK once preflop at levels lower than 200NL

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I think folding KK preflop at lower levels is a very bad idea. More often that not you won't be shown AA.

[amoeba]

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I have folded KK once preflop at levels lower than 200NL

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I think folding KK preflop at lower levels is a very bad idea. More often that not you won't be shown AA.

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Well you would have to have a very good read to fold them. I think HERO here had a good read but chose to ignore them as the hard and fast rule that is also repeatedly reinforced by these boards is that you don't fold KK preflop at party.