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Old 12-15-2005, 01:42 PM
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http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2005/12...y1123405.shtml

a better article
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:28 PM
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We are talking about a natural plant here, not someone breaking a commandment.

You are the worst agruer on the forum.

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You confuse commandments with crimes.

You confuse plants with crimes.

Both murder and drugs ruin people's lives, in different ways and to different degrees. Crimes are crimes for a reason. In time, as you mature, you will understand this.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:39 PM
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We are talking about a natural plant here, not someone breaking a commandment.

You are the worst agruer on the forum.

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You confuse commandments with crimes.

You confuse plants with crimes.

Both murder and drugs ruin people's lives, in different ways and to different degrees. Crimes are crimes for a reason. In time, as you mature, you will understand this.

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"Crimes are crimes for a reason" is one of the dumbest generalizations I've ever heard. I guess we better stop questioning laws then, right?
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:45 PM
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"Crimes are crimes for a reason" is one of the dumbest generalizations I've ever heard. I guess we better stop questioning laws then, right?

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Of course we can question our laws. In fact these laws have often been questioned, and the voters, who make the decisions, have repeatedly sent legislators who support the criminalization of harmful drugs.

Crimes are crimes because the people throuogh their representatives want them to be crimes. Go ahead and call that a generalization, but the American people want drugs criminalized.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:07 AM
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If you're not furious about the drug war yet, you're just ignorant.


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So if they had burst into the wrong apartment after getting a lead to a mass murderer who lived next door, you would say "If you're not furious about the anti-murder war yet, you're just ignorant."?

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B&P, I'm sorry I wasn't clear about why this was a drug war victim. The tactics of no-knock midnight raids (a favorite of the Stasi and KGB) has proliferated under the drug war. Cory Maye was not a murderer and he wasn't even a drug criminal. The drug war has eroded our rights and our safety as citizens due to the ever-increasing zeal of the drug warriors.

There is no definition of "free country" that includes the laws and actions that led up to Cory Maye's death sentence.

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Old 12-15-2005, 02:41 PM
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If you're not furious about the drug war yet, you're just ignorant.


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And if the police had been raiding a child porn ring, you would feel differently?
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: Cory Maye, another drug war victim

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If you're not furious about the drug war yet, you're just ignorant.


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And if the police had been raiding a child porn ring, you would feel differently?

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Children are not competent to contract. They are victims in such an undertaking, by definition. There is nothing analogous about the two situations.

A better analogy would be, "What if the police were raiding a liquor store," or "What if the police were raiding a brothel," or "What if the police were raiding a card room."
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:56 PM
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This page disagrees with your account of the story:
link

I don't knwo enough about this case to separate fact from fiction, but it appears that there is much more gray area to this than you are giving it credit for. If it were so obvious that this guy was acting in reasonable self-defense, why would he have been convicted? Yeah, juries are dumb sometimes, but I'm not ready to jump to the conclusion that this guy is compeltely innocent.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:58 PM
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This page disagrees with your account of the story:
link

I don't knwo enough about this case to separate fact from fiction, but it appears that there is much more gray area to this than you are giving it credit for. If it were so obvious that this guy was acting in reasonable self-defense, why would he have been convicted? Yeah, juries are dumb sometimes, but I'm not ready to jump to the conclusion that this guy is compeltely innocent.

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Here's a very thorough account:

http://hammeroftruth.com/2005/12/13/...ory-maye-wiki/

By no means should Maye have been sentenced to death. It's a [censored] tragedy.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:05 PM
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It is too bad that the pro-druggies have to lie and distort a story to make it look like the police are bad and drugs are good. I guess they can win the debate by just being truthful.

It is clear, now that the facts are out, that this guy was a cold blooded cop killer.
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