Flop Set with Flush Draw and Aggression

Sasnak · #1 04-17-2005, 11:03 PM

Villain is 55/5/4.6 after 35 hands. I was on the fence here. What's your line? Pay 2 BB's to catch a boat?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (7.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 bets, MP2 calls, Hero raises, CO calls, Button folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG bets, UTG+2 raises, MP2 folds, Hero folds, CO folds, UTG calls.

River: (12.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, UTG+2 bets, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

Entity · #2 04-17-2005, 11:06 PM

This is a terrible fold. Call and re-evaluate on the river, but there are too many two-pair hands he'd play this way too.

GrunchCan · #3 04-17-2005, 11:07 PM

See a river card.

Greg J · #4 04-17-2005, 11:10 PM

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What's your line? Pay 2 BB's to catch a boat?

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Yes.

Seriously dude, what are you thinking here? Even if you don't have the best hand, you have 10 outs to a boat+.

I say this out of love so you will never do this again: the penalty for this should be someone ripping open yr chest and tearing out yr fuc[/i]king soul. Don't do this. This is a fuc[/i]ktard play. You don't want the kids calling you a fuc[/i]ktard, do you?

Shillx · #5 04-17-2005, 11:12 PM

Good thing you posted this hand. You just fixed a leak.

Sasnak · #6 04-17-2005, 11:15 PM

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This is a terrible fold. Call and re-evaluate on the river, but there are too many two-pair hands he'd play this way too.

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It's funny you should say that... Then you normally call 2 on the turn even when there is another to act behind you? How many bets do you go? I was also considering about having it raised again behind me.

Entity · #7 04-17-2005, 11:17 PM

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This is a terrible fold. Call and re-evaluate on the river, but there are too many two-pair hands he'd play this way too.

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It's funny you should say that... Then you normally call 2 on the turn even when there is another to act behind you? How many bets do you go? I was also considering about having it raised again behind me.

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If you have to call 4 bets on the turn because it gets 3-bet and capped behind you, you're looking at 16.75:4, and you're 3.6:1 to fill up on the river. Do you see why it's an easy call?

Now, given the bet-raise on the turn, I'm calling a non-heart river, because I don't think he's got a flush > 1/3 of the time. This isn't the story if it goes 3bet-cap, but if it's just bet-raise, I'm not planning on folding UI given your read. You'll see AT quite often here, AQ occasionally, and QT as well.

Rob

Sasnak · #8 04-17-2005, 11:18 PM

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What's your line? Pay 2 BB's to catch a boat?

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Yes.

Seriously dude, what are you thinking here? Even if you don't have the best hand, you have 10 outs to a boat+.

I say this out of love so you will never do this again: the penalty for this should be someone ripping open yr chest and tearing out yr fuc[/i]king soul. Don't do this. This is a fuc[/i]ktard play. You don't want the kids calling you a fuc[/i]ktard, do you?

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Tough love sucks without a femdom in the room... Point taken. Leak fixed. Thank you very much, may I have another?

Greg J · #9 04-17-2005, 11:22 PM

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Tough love sucks without a femdom in the room... Point taken. Leak fixed. Thank you very much, may I have another?

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Looks like you will fit in just fine here. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

As a side note, there is a very good chance you will fold the best hand making this play, as Entity told you.

PokerProdigy · #10 04-17-2005, 11:23 PM

I don't like your play at all, even if you knew he had a flush, you'd still be justified to calling EVEN IF IT WAS CAPPED. Now, for all you know this guy has two pair or maybe even top pair and a flush draw, which means YOU'RE MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE FOLDING. EITHER WAY YOU'RE MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE (because you are either ahead, or you have ten outs to win).

If you don't understand exactly what I am saying then learn the fundamental theorem of poker IMMEDIATELY.