Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Pot-, No-Limit Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-05-2004, 05:04 PM
RiverRider RiverRider is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 28
Default No maximum Buy-in NL games

Hi,

Do you guys know any online pokerrooms where we can play No maximum buy-in NL Texas-Holdem games? I would prefer blinds of 1$/2$ and below.

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-05-2004, 05:40 PM
AncientPC AncientPC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Losing +EV coinflips
Posts: 1,629
Default Re: No maximum Buy-in NL games

[ QUOTE ]
Hi,

Do you guys know any online pokerrooms where we can play No maximum buy-in NL Texas-Holdem games? I would prefer blinds of 1$/2$ and below.

Thanks

[/ QUOTE ]

TGC Poker has a table for $100/$200 blinds, 2,000/20,000 min/max buy-ins.

AFAIK all online NL tables have a max buy-in. Otherwise it'd give an advantage to the player with the biggest bankroll (although at the same time playing with your entire bankroll is stupid).
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-05-2004, 05:54 PM
J-Lo J-Lo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 1
Default Re: No maximum Buy-in NL games

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Hi,

Do you guys know any online pokerrooms where we can play No maximum buy-in NL Texas-Holdem games? I would prefer blinds of 1$/2$ and below.

Thanks

[/ QUOTE ]

TGC Poker has a table for $100/$200 blinds, 2,000/20,000 min/max buy-ins.

AFAIK all online NL tables have a max buy-in. Otherwise it'd give an advantage to the player with the biggest bankroll (although at the same time playing with your entire bankroll is stupid).

[/ QUOTE ]

That is one thing i do not understand.... How can having more money on the table an advantage? In tourney's i can see how it is advantageous... But in a game where you can go into your pocket and pull out more money, i see no advantage with having a big stack...
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-05-2004, 06:07 PM
AncientPC AncientPC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Losing +EV coinflips
Posts: 1,629
Default Re: No maximum Buy-in NL games

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Hi,

Do you guys know any online pokerrooms where we can play No maximum buy-in NL Texas-Holdem games? I would prefer blinds of 1$/2$ and below.

Thanks

[/ QUOTE ]

TGC Poker has a table for $100/$200 blinds, 2,000/20,000 min/max buy-ins.

AFAIK all online NL tables have a max buy-in. Otherwise it'd give an advantage to the player with the biggest bankroll (although at the same time playing with your entire bankroll is stupid).

[/ QUOTE ]

That is one thing i do not understand.... How can having more money on the table an advantage? In tourney's i can see how it is advantageous... But in a game where you can go into your pocket and pull out more money, i see no advantage with having a big stack...

[/ QUOTE ]

When there are two big stacks at a table, they can essentially up the blinds making it unprofitable for the smaller stacks to call with certain hands.

Say I'm at a NL 25 table and everyone has $25 stacks. I have 99 and someone raises to $3. I call after 1 other person calls hoping to make a set.

Say I'm at the same NL 25 table with a $25 stack. There are 2 other big stacks with $75 on either side of me. The one on the right raises to $3, I call. The one on the left reraises it to $6. I call again. This play is -EV in the long run, because I'm calling with a medium PP for set value for a quarter of my stack.

Even if I hit my set, I only get paid off a max of $50. If I had a stack of $100 (covering the other 2 big stacks), I could potentially make $150.

For this same reason I do not understand why people buy in less than the maximum at NL tables. On Party NL 25, you'll see people buying in for as little as $10. When I raise pre-flop, it's never going to be less than $3. If they ever call my $3 pre-flop raise, it's basically setting them all-in at that point as the pot is at least the same size as their stack.

Does that make sense? If there are any problems in my line of thinking, someone else more knowledgeable than I will probably point out my errors.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-05-2004, 06:08 PM
The4thFilm The4thFilm is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 412
Default Re: No maximum Buy-in NL games

Implied odds become insane. If you can take someone's entire $1,000,000 stack with a $1 BB then any 2 cards are worth playing.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-05-2004, 06:08 PM
PITTM PITTM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 39
Default Re: No maximum Buy-in NL games

if you get a really good hand you will have everyone covered i guess?

rj
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-05-2004, 06:19 PM
fsuplayer fsuplayer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 187
Default Re: No maximum Buy-in NL games

i assume you mean online. yes, bugsy's club has a unlimited buy in NL game with 1-2 blinds. havent played it in a long long time though, so couldnt tell you much about it.

they also have the best tourneys on the web.

fsuplayer
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-05-2004, 06:23 PM
fsuplayer fsuplayer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 187
Default Re: No maximum Buy-in NL games

almost no one has unrestricted buy in games bc it would empty out the fish tank too fast. NL is already notorious for the edge good players have over bad ones, so the restricted buy in lessens that edge.

fsuplayer
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-05-2004, 06:25 PM
RiverRider RiverRider is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 28
Default Re: No maximum Buy-in NL games

By the way, I wasnt planning to put 10K on a 1$/2$ table but I think that the 50BB-100BB is not enough. I prefer to play with a deep stack so I can play the game in a different way. 200-250BB would be nice.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-05-2004, 06:28 PM
AncientPC AncientPC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Losing +EV coinflips
Posts: 1,629
Default Re: No maximum Buy-in NL games

[ QUOTE ]
By the way, I wasnt planning to put 10K on a 1$/2$ table but I think that the 50BB-100BB is not enough. I prefer to play with a deep stack so I can play the game in a different way. 200-250BB would be nice.

[/ QUOTE ]

Absolute's NL tables have a 200BB max buyin. There's a lot of nut peddlers as a result, very little action.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.