Canterbury 8/16, Preflop question

I raise, but I don't think there's much to be gained by knocking players out. Its a raise purely for value. 99 will win more than its fair share against a bunch of limpers. Especially as the number of limpers cuts down on the possibility of domination by a higher pocket pair. Raise it up [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Aces McGee]

It's certainly a value raise, and I regret neglecting to mention that in my post. But knocking players out is an excellent supporting argument in this case, particularly if it will buy you the button.

-McGee

[SeaEagle]

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particularly if it will buy you the button.


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The button has next to no value in this hand. In fact, button would probably be the deciding factor for my play in this situation - I wouldn't raise if I thought a raise would knock button out.

[MainEvent]

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particularly if it will buy you the button.


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The button has next to no value in this hand. In fact, button would probably be the deciding factor for my play in this situation - I wouldn't raise if I thought a raise would knock button out.

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Can you explain this please? I'm more than a bit lost.

[EgoSlasher]

Limp everytime, you don't have a large enough equity edge to justify raising with 5 limpers preflop. When you're up against that many opponents play 99 for set value.

[Bob T.]

For the most part, CP games play so passively that I think the four swings at a set is the overriding factor on this hand, assuming all of your opponents can remember who raised preflop.

The other thing that makes me like the raise, is that if you make the set on the turn after the flop gets checked through, you could potentially be facing a lot of action before it gets to you, and could win a pot that you need the circus pony to jump over when all those yellow chips start flying.

Limp, raising here builds the pot up too much, if the flop comes up where you have an overpair rainbow it provides all the more incentive for someone to stay in and draw you out with overcards.

[EgoSlasher]

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For the most part, CP games play so passively that I think the four swings at a set is the overriding factor on this hand, assuming all of your opponents can remember who raised preflop.

The other thing that makes me like the raise, is that if you make the set on the turn after the flop gets checked through, you could potentially be facing a lot of action before it gets to you, and could win a pot that you need the circus pony to jump over when all those yellow chips start flying.

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Last I checked we needed 22:1 to draw to our set past the flop. it's unlikely we'll be getting those odds.

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For the most part, CP games play so passively that I think the four swings at a set is the overriding factor on this hand, assuming all of your opponents can remember who raised preflop.

The other thing that makes me like the raise, is that if you make the set on the turn after the flop gets checked through, you could potentially be facing a lot of action before it gets to you, and could win a pot that you need the circus pony to jump over when all those yellow chips start flying.

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Last I checked we needed 22:1 to draw to our set past the flop. it's unlikely we'll be getting those odds.

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[sean c]

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For the most part, CP games play so passively that I think the four swings at a set is the overriding factor on this hand, assuming all of your opponents can remember who raised preflop.

The other thing that makes me like the raise, is that if you make the set on the turn after the flop gets checked through, you could potentially be facing a lot of action before it gets to you, and could win a pot that you need the circus pony to jump over when all those yellow chips start flying.

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Last I checked we needed 22:1 to draw to our set past the flop. it's unlikely we'll be getting those odds.

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