TPwK/Flush draw... turn play?

[atnels]

Good point.

[karitek]

Bet. You have top pair and a strong flush draw - you will win this pot more than your share of the time. Bet for value. Even if you are behind 2 pair - you have at least 14 outs to improve, plus hidden outs if the board pairs(depending on their hands). Also, I doubt you are behind - no one has shown any strength on this street.

Does anyone raise this pre-flop?

[davelin]

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Does anyone raise this pre-flop?

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KTs or maybe even K9s I'd consider it. Not here.

[parappa]

Excellent post.

I bet the turn and I think that it is for value.

[chapstick]

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UTG is a solid TAG. Good preflop standards, aggressive when it's appropriate.

MP2 and CO are loose and weak.
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Check or bet?

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I would say bet. There is a chance UTG will check-raise. But since he check-raised the flop, I'm surprised he didn't come out firing. I'd expect him to call.

Even if he did raise, since the pot is 10BB I would be comfortable with wagering 2BB in order to see the river. Especially if I think I'll make best hand if a diamond hits. If a low diamond hits and one of MP2 or CO make a straight, there will be even more bets to pick up.

[milesdyson]

I would have raised the first flop bet.

[Jaran]

If I'm not improved, I think I'd call one, but I'm not sure about overcalling. I think I would call one from UTG if all fold to me. If one of the weakies in the middle bet, I'd overcall one and I'm tempted to raise a CO bet. Not sure about that one.

-Jaran

[chapstick]

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Also, the K is unlikely to have improved anyone. If UTG flopped a set, then he's making a horrible play by check-raising you on the turn and blowing out MP2.

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I initially thought this was true, but am no longer so sure. What if one of MP2 or CO (or both) are on a gut-shot straight draw? Do you really want them drawing out on you? I think a check-raise gives them incorrect odds to call, no? Or maybe I'm missing something else. Can you explain, please. Thanks.

[milesdyson]

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Also, the K is unlikely to have improved anyone. If UTG flopped a set, then he's making a horrible play by check-raising you on the turn and blowing out MP2.

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I initially thought this was true, but am no longer so sure. What if one of MP2 or CO (or both) are on a gut-shot straight draw? Do you really want them drawing out on you? I think a check-raise gives them incorrect odds to call, no? Or maybe I'm missing something else. Can you explain, please. Thanks.

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Hero played this 100% like a flush draw, and expecting him to bet the turn is dumb. If he hadn't hit the king on the turn (or an ace if he had the nut flush draw), he would take a free card and fold the river without the flush.

[davelin]

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I would have raised the first flop bet.

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True, good point.