What is the path from 1/2 to 5/10

[SpiderMnkE]

Ok, so assume some newb has a 400 BB bankroll for 1/2. He eventually wants to play 5/10 and rake in the dough like all of the big boys.

Now, say this guy starts to beat the 1/2 game for 3 bb/100. I don't even know if that is realistic, I just started reading this forum. But, it seems like it would take a long time to build up the roll to take a shot at 5/10.

Also, what constitutes taking a shot. Would he just earn 100 BBs and take a shot and hope to jump in on a winning streak.

Or do you people usually go through the 2/4 and 3/6 full games to get here?

Also, how big is the diff between 1/2 and 5/10. If someone were crushing the 1/2, would it be a huge gamble to stake themselves with money outside their poker funds if they were big time beating the 1/2?

[djcolts]

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Also, what constitutes taking a shot. Would he just earn 100 BBs and take a shot and hope to jump in on a winning streak.


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I don't know the answer - but I've played less than 2000 hands of Party 1/2 6max and won 250BBs (really - no joke). This is clearly a lucky run (I'm obviously not nearly that good - not even close - and I'm bracing for the horrible downturn to come), and there is no way on earth I should move directly to 5/10 even with a proper bankroll - it isn't even in my thoughts right now.

My point is that I'm pretty sure that being up 100 BBs (or 200 BBs for that matter) in Party 1/2 6max does not mean you should move up to 5/10.

[Paul2432]

I'll give two conflicting pieces of advice. You can use each of them to weigh your decision.

1) Bankroll grows faster than experience. [1]

2) Not playing 5/10 if you can beat the game will cost you a lot of money. It is worth investing some money to find out. Note that when assessing whether you can beat the game don't give to much credence to your short term results. Instead, make an honest evalutation of your skill versus your opponents. Sklansky talks about this in TOP.

Paul

[1] from another 2+2 poster's post that I can't find at the moment

[sammy_g]

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Now, say this guy starts to beat the 1/2 game for 3 bb/100. I don't even know if that is realistic, I just started reading this forum.

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It's definitely realistic.

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Also, what constitutes taking a shot. Would he just earn 100 BBs and take a shot and hope to jump in on a winning streak.

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With only 100BB, you could easily go broke, even if your "true" win rate at 5/10 is 3BB/100. I would not recommend taking a shot with only 100BB. If you hit a run of bad cards, you won't have anything left to rebuild your bankroll.

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Or do you people usually go through the 2/4 and 3/6 full games to get here?

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I beat up on the 2/4 full for a while, then pretty much jumped to 5/10 6 max.

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Also, how big is the diff between 1/2 and 5/10. If someone were crushing the 1/2, would it be a huge gamble to stake themselves with money outside their poker funds if they were big time beating the 1/2?

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I haven't played the 1/2 6 max, so I can't really comment on this. You might consider playing 2/4 6 max or 3/6 6 max on another site. 1/2 to 5/10 is a pretty big jump.

[turnipmonster]

I never played the 1/2, I will say this. in my limited experience in 5/10, you can run bad and lose a dime no problem. so if losing a dime is a really big deal, don't take a shot until it isn't. if I were you I would play 2/4 and 3/6 full games until I had 300BB for the 5/10, and then start taking shots at it.

--turnipmonster

[djcolts]

I've played nearly 2000 hands at 1/2 6max at Party - the players are truly bad. The number of tables with open-limpers UTG is staggering. If I see that, I sit down at that table right away - it has worked for me so far.

[fyodor]

I don't know what the "normal" path is but I'll tell you what mine was.

I played very little at the 1/2 SH. Instead I looked for tables of 2/4 & 3/6 that only had 2 or 3 players seated. I sat down and played till they filled up. I then moved to another table.

I took my shot at 5/10 when I had 150 BBs. Got lucky first time and never had to go back.

For what it's worth I found that at the 2/4 & 3/6 where most players were not used to SH situations, I was able to get away with almost total LAG like play. I don't know if I would have gotten away with that long term though. I built my roll rather fast and as I say my first shot at 5/10 was succesfull.

[SpiderMnkE]

When I said 100 BB shot. I didn't mean that my entire bankroll was gunna be the shot. I meant that I had 100 BB to throw into that game and hope for the best and get a feel for it. That's what I meant by taking a shot. Giving it a try without the proper bankroll requirements, but knowing that when the money runs out I would have to build up another 100 bb for a shot.

Right now I'm tinkering in the 1/2 game. I have 2k hands and am down about 50 BB.

Day one I went up 35 BB in 1000 hands. Day two I went down 85 BB in 1000 hands.

From what I've read on here this means nothing. I could be a winner or I could be a loser. I'm overrolled for this game, but I figured I'd learn 6 max limit cheap.

If I've encountered normal swings, wow this game is gunna be crazy.

[Nemesis]

I think those swings are pretty typical... happens to me like that a lot. What i plan on doing is getting to about 1400 then moving over to pokerstars and playing their 2/4 6-max tables and leave a couple hundred at party to play 1/2 during the bad hours at stars. When I get a 300 BB role for 5/10 i'm gonna give it a shot, and stay there until i win or lose half of it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[MAxx]

my path was .5/1 full, 1/2 full, 2/4 full, 3/6 full, some 5/10 full, now 5/10 short.

i dont think there is one magic path, but i agree with what most of the other guys are saying:

that 1/2 to 5/10 is kinda a big leap, but doable if your pocket is ready for the challenge and you think your skills are there.

there are better or safer options like playing short at other sites, or getting your full-ring experience in for a while to take smaller leaps.