KQ...flop check okay?

[FreakDaddy]

To answer your question, no. You showed strength before the flop, you hit the flop, all be it not the exact flop you'd like [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img], but you're oop and I think a flop lead is better here. I don't mind a flop check/call that much, with the intention of leading the turn, BUT you need to make the bet a little stronger. I think you pretty much know that though, so I guess I'd have to ask what you thought you'd accomplish by taking this line and not expecting to get bluffed off the hand? The flop and turn look really weak, and I'd raise if I were villian no matter what I had.

[JooWish622]

A. I avoid a flop raise, thus keeping the pot small until the turn, i conceal my hand by check-calling (not really conceal, but i overepresent it, i suggest that a draw card may help me which is important since there are a lot of turn cards that complete draws), and I keep some of his made hands honest (like black jacks and T9) honest on the turn when I check again (because of a bad turn card) since I check-called. If i check again on the turn because of an ugly card, they will be less likely to bluff because of an ugly card. If I bet the turn because of a safe card, my stop and go may suggest a flush (it is confusing, not necessarily, but they'll find less reason to inflate the pot with say a red AK with only one card to come)..

basically it keeps the pot small, keeps em honest, and overrepresents my hand on a lot of turn cards. peace

do you agree?

wouldnt you hate to be raised by AK of diamonds with a black KQ on this board? you can't possibly call comfortably and all you've done is let them inflate the pot with a hand you often can't call a turn bet with. Thats why calling 32 here is better then actually betting 32, betting 32 doesnt end the action. But, you would rather have them bet once, check-call, and then bet the turn on a safe turn?

sorry for the stream of consciousness reply