5/10 6m A3o against a maniac

jason_t · #1 09-23-2005, 10:14 PM

Villain is a complete 68.09/21.28/2.85 maniac. In one hand he cold called an UTG raise from the tighest player at the table (not me), called a flop bet on an QT6r board, capped a turn K and bet a blank river. He showed A4 high. In another hand he raised his option in the BB after a CO open limp and SB fold. The flop was TJJ and went check, check. The turn A and river T were capped. Maniac had K7o.

So, help me here with a plan.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero

Lmn55d · #2 09-23-2005, 10:15 PM

His sb limp is suspicious. My standard play is to call down. You can't fold against this player and I think the best way to get to showdown is by letting him bet.

TStoneMBD · #3 09-23-2005, 10:15 PM

yah definitely call this down no contest

baronzeus · #4 09-23-2005, 10:16 PM

i generally raise preflop against this guy since he probably has absolute trash.

calling down is good because you definitely have enough equity to see a showdown but raising can cost you a lot of money if he has a good hand for once.

Jeff W · #5 09-23-2005, 10:50 PM

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Why do you post these stats with 2 figures after the decimal place, but fail to include the number of hands you have on villain?

PF limp is a little suspicious, but I'd raise.

I'd 3-bet the flop and any action past that would depend on feel. The only action which gives me any doubt about the strength of our hand is his pre flop complete--I'd give way more action if he had raised pre flop.

jason_t · #6 09-23-2005, 11:00 PM

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68.09/21.28/2.85

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Why do you post these stats with 2 figures after the decimal place, but fail to include the number of hands you have on villain?

PF limp is a little suspicious, but I'd raise.

I'd 3-bet the flop and any action past that would depend on feel. The only action which gives me any doubt about the strength of our hand is his pre flop complete--I'd give way more action if he had raised pre flop.

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Sorry. It was almost 1000 datamined hands.

I did 3-bet the flop. I'm not sure if that's right; can you explain why you think so?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero

TStoneMBD · #7 09-23-2005, 11:12 PM

jeff could you elaborate on why you prefer 3betting the flop instead of calling? because i think the correct line is to just call. 3betting the flop put jason in this horrible predicament on the turn. if your kicker was quite large (but for some reaosn didnt raise preflop) then i could see a good arguement made for 3betting. but you are probably outkicked here a good portion of the time.

SomethingClever · #8 09-23-2005, 11:44 PM

Raise preflop.

As played, I call the c/r and usually just call down UI.

I suck against LAGs.

Jeff W · #9 09-24-2005, 12:09 AM

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jeff could you elaborate on why you prefer 3betting the flop instead of calling? because i think the correct line is to just call. 3betting the flop put jason in this horrible predicament on the turn.

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I 3-bet the flop because I believe that I have the best hand and 2 BB on flop+1 BB on turn/river unimproved seems like the right amount of action to me.

I don't see the predicament on the turn, it looks like an easy call down to me unless I improve.

MrTeddyKGB · #10 09-24-2005, 12:23 AM

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I 3-bet the flop because I believe that I have the best hand and 2 BB on flop+1 BB on turn/river unimproved seems like the right amount of action to me.

I don't see the predicament on the turn, it looks like an easy call down to me unless I improve.

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I think I would just call down after check raise. Poker stove gives us 58% equity aganist a random hand. I dont think we are a favorate aganst his check raiseing range.