Help me settle a debate please...

TexArcher · #1 11-02-2005, 01:36 AM

Okay, I'm rusty as hell at limit, as I gave it up in my early days in favor of NL cash and tourneys exclusively...

I've got someone on another site trying to tell me that calling 7 2 off from the SB with about 5 limpers is +EV.

Could this possibly be right??...

El Ishmael · #2 11-02-2005, 01:40 AM

Nah, yo.

hobbsmann · #3 11-02-2005, 01:41 AM

maybe at 15/30 where the small blind is 2/3rds.

TexArcher · #4 11-02-2005, 01:44 AM

I just can't even believe I'm in this discussion, it's what, about 3.5% (appx) that you'll flop two pair or better, otherwise you're looking at what, flopping nothing or flopping a pair and facing a 5 outer out of position against multiple opponents?

hobbsmann · #5 11-02-2005, 01:47 AM

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I just can't even believe I'm in this discussion, it's what, about 3.5% (appx) that you'll flop two pair or better, otherwise you're looking at what, flopping nothing or flopping a pair and facing a 5 outer out of position against multiple opponents?

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yup yup, and you are getting 20:1 on your call so this is about a neutral EV situation and if you play g00t postflop calling is the optimal play.

TexArcher · #6 11-02-2005, 01:50 AM

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I just can't even believe I'm in this discussion, it's what, about 3.5% (appx) that you'll flop two pair or better, otherwise you're looking at what, flopping nothing or flopping a pair and facing a 5 outer out of position against multiple opponents?

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yup yup, and you are getting 20:1 on your call so this is about a neutral EV situation and if you play g00t postflop calling is the optimal play.

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You're assuming the 2/3 SB/BB here right?

He wasn't, standard 1/2...

Even still, I wouldn't like it, but I guess that's why I play NL these days! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

hobbsmann · #7 11-02-2005, 01:56 AM

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I just can't even believe I'm in this discussion, it's what, about 3.5% (appx) that you'll flop two pair or better, otherwise you're looking at what, flopping nothing or flopping a pair and facing a 5 outer out of position against multiple opponents?

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yup yup, and you are getting 20:1 on your call so this is about a neutral EV situation and if you play g00t postflop calling is the optimal play.

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You're assuming the 2/3 SB/BB here right?

He wasn't, standard 1/2...

Even still, I wouldn't like it, but I guess that's why I play NL these days! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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yeah 2/3rds. In a 1/2 structure calling with 72 blows.

Nick C · #8 11-02-2005, 01:42 AM

I think that in a 2/3 SB/BB structure, a case could be made for completing.

But in a 1/2 structure, I would fold.

newhizzle · #9 11-02-2005, 02:05 AM

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I think that in a 2/3 SB/BB structure, a case could be made for completing.

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am i the only one who completes any 2 at 15/30 regardless of how many opponents are in like HPFAP says to do?

shant · #10 11-02-2005, 02:55 AM

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am i the only one who completes any 2 at 15/30 regardless of how many opponents are in like HPFAP says to do?

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It's been discussed and this was what people reccomended.