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Old 12-29-2005, 11:59 AM
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mid stages of 13K tourny.
my stack 13K ,
villian stack 5.5K
blinds 200/400
UTG open raises to 800
UTG+1 (Hero) calls with 99.
every one folds to the villian on the BB who reraises to 2400 leaving him self about 3K left.
my read on the villian is that he is very good player and well caple of making this move with any two cards and try to dteal the pot there. a squeez move and also leaving him with 3K as well.
whats my move and why?
bytheway UTG folds
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:09 PM
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mid stages of 13K tourny.
my stack 13K ,
villian stack 5.5K
blinds 200/400
UTG open raises to 800
UTG+1 (Hero) calls with 99.
every one folds to the villian on the BB who reraises to 2400 leaving him self about 3K left.
my read on the villian is that he is very good player and well caple of making this move with any two cards and try to dteal the pot there. a squeez move and also leaving him with 3K as well.
whats my move and why?

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couple of things you didnt state #1 did UTG fold? #2 are there antes involved?
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:12 PM
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Yes UTG folds and there are no antes.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: what would you do in this situation?

What did UTG do?

Assuming he folded I'd probably flat call t1,600 into the t3,800 pot, making the pot t5,800. Small enough to get away from if the flop is in-opportune and he pushes.

20% of the time no card higher than your nines will flop. 13% of the time you'll flop a set.

Folding is too tight here. Pushing is a possibility, but I'd prefer the call.

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Old 12-29-2005, 12:21 PM
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Yes UTG folds and there are no antes.

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so you have to call 1600 into a pot of 4200. 2.6:1. Given your read it sounds like an easy call. you also state that this is a 13k tourny. is this a guaranteed 13k? or a 13k buyin? if it is small buyin, given your read on villain trying to make this move with any 2, then i may consider a push and hope for a race or better.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: what would you do in this situation?

From Villian's point of view, there has been a min raise and a call. No one has shown any great strength. I think that he can make a squeeze play with almost any hand but wouldn't he want to go allin instead? With a raise of 3 times the amount of the original raise, I think that he may be making this move with some sort of hand if he is a tight player. But I don't see him doing this with AA or KK. Maybe QQ - TT, AK, AQ, AJ. If he is a loose player, it could be just two high cards.

If I were you, I would gamble and put him to the test and go all in. If you lose, you still have an M above 10.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:31 PM
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nah its 13K grtd.
based on my read would pushing be a bad idea here ?
under what situions would pushing better than calling?
i assume i would have to call his all in bet after the flop as long as the flop has maybe just one over card?
in that case is pushing not more +EV based on my FE?
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:35 PM
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nah its 13K grtd.
based on my read would pushing be a bad idea here ?
under what situions would pushing better than calling?
i assume i would have to call his all in bet after the flop as long as the flop has maybe just one over card?
in that case is pushing not more +EV based on my FE?

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pushing is fine. you have him outstacked and I wouldnt count on any FE since he has already put in almost half his stack.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:41 PM
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reluts:
i pushed and he called and he had AA and they held up.
thanks for the advice.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:47 PM
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pushing is fine.

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Really? I mean, I know our hero has a read, but villian just dumped half his stack into into a multi-way pot against a utg raiser. Is this really "any two" that often?
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