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Old 07-14-2005, 07:14 PM
locutus2002 locutus2002 is offline
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Default Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP

I was implying that without getting into a discussion about players named Phil.
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP

Let's settle this once and for all.

If more than one player is all in in front of you and you have AA, you should fold. With more than one person you are probably not an 80% favorite anymore and you don't want to get your money in with less than that. After all, don't you want to hang out at the WSOP for as long as you can?
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP

I suppose what Im really trying to get at is whether, on this forum, where most would assume, rightly or wrongly, that they are among the best in the tournament, that a fold would be the prevailing preflop action in this position......feck it...I'll do a poll.

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Old 07-15-2005, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP

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She is a respected player in London, and said on TV that she would fold AA preflop early in the WSOP if faced with 3 all in bets infront of her....Is that a common opinion here?

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This thread makes me cry.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP

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This thread makes me cry.

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Agreed. If there are a bunch of all-ins before you, cant you assume that they are sharing their cards?
AK KQ QA maybe 88-KK
AA is more likely to hold then isn't it?

I'll go run a simulation...
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP

Holdem Hi: 850668 enumerated boards

cards %win
A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 50.48
K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9.86
8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 20.30
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9.76
A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8.49
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP

The only real contention comes from low/mid PP.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:47 AM
locutus2002 locutus2002 is offline
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Default Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP

Here is a narrow donkish view that illustrates why it could be a fold.

The first donk has QQ and goes all in. (has not read Harrington Vol I)
The second donk has KK and goes all in. (read about Gus Hansen never laying down KK before the flop)
The third donk is a 2+2er and makes the reluctant call with AA only so he can start another thread.

Vicky looks at AA, 40% of the time she goes broke, 60% of the time she doubles up. She's not going to get all her money in on 60/40 in the beginning on one hand.

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Old 07-15-2005, 03:09 AM
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Default Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP

AA is 67% on KK and QQ. This is also a situation where you would be getting odds as well, or am I wrong?
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:40 AM
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Default Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP

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She is a respected player in London

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LOL
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