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Old 12-03-2004, 01:20 PM
Smarty Smarty is offline
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Default Standard Play?

Hey guys, I've just started playing PL Omaha and I was curious if this the standard play post-flop...

Seat 1: Hero ( $54 )
Seat 3: oneforluck ( $21.5 )
Seat 4: Darkcocoa ( $30.25 )
Seat 5: brew282001 ( $139.55 )
Seat 10: PocketAlex ( $111.8 )
Seat 7: Annelike ( $27.55 )
Seat 2: alansuited ( $5.2 )
Seat 9: Abuleel ( $19.5 )
Seat 6: tony4428 ( $24.5 )
Seat 8: taylor333 ( $10 )
tony4428 posts small blind [$0.25].
taylor333 posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9h 9s As 8d ]
Abuleel calls [$0.5].
PocketAlex raises [$2].
Hero calls [$2].
alansuited calls [$2].
oneforluck folds.
Darkcocoa calls [$2].
brew282001 calls [$2].
tony4428 folds.
taylor333 folds.
Abuleel calls [$1.5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, Js, 7s ]
Abuleel checks.
PocketAlex checks.
Hero checks.
alansuited checks.
Darkcocoa checks.
brew282001 bets [$12.15].
Abuleel folds.
PocketAlex calls [$12.15].
Hero is all-In.
alansuited folds.
Darkcocoa folds.
brew282001 folds.
alansuited: over raised the pot.
brew282001: nice try
PocketAlex folds.
Hero does not show cards.
Hero wins $86.6
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Old 12-03-2004, 02:28 PM
Cleveland Guy Cleveland Guy is offline
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Default Re: Standard Play?

I think the check - pot raise is yelling to these players " I HAVE THE NUT FLUSH".

Both of their stacks are deep, so I think you could have milked them for more.

What are the types of hands they are likely playing here? Since you have 2 nines, including the 9 of spades, you know a straight flush draw is out. You also with the 9s and 8 take away some cards that would give them a wrap.

While I know the straight doesn't mean anything, the people are likely to play hands like JJ98. But you holding the 9s and 8s make their full house less likely.


Also - their full house is less likely because they are probably holding each others outs. Maybe they both have JT, or one has JJ and the other has 77. Some something along these lines.

Combined with that they are betting on if they are smart players, and what you are holding, I think you could have waitied to the turn to push hard.

Your raise was ~ $40. That's a lot to call when at best your hand is 2nd best (K high flush).
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Old 12-03-2004, 04:00 PM
USS Gut Shot USS Gut Shot is offline
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Default Re: Standard Play?

I think the standard play is to bet out on the flop with all your flushes. If players know you will bet out with an A high flush they will be hard pressed to call when you are betting an eight high flush and they hold the #3 flush.

Of course occassionally check raising the flop and slowplaying to the turn is fine to vary your play. However, on the turn the original bettor will probably be afraid to bet with two callers on the flop. You should also try betting the flop and checking into an aggressive player on the turn.

I am looking forward to hearing how other players play the NF in specific situations.
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Old 12-03-2004, 04:05 PM
dogsballs dogsballs is offline
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Default Re: Standard Play?

Once you check and get the bet-call back to you, I like the stop-n-go for the reasons suggested by Cleveland Guy. You hope they hold some of each others boat outs and can get them to pay you on the turn as well.
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:06 PM
USS Gut Shot USS Gut Shot is offline
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Dog,
What do you mean by stop and go?

Thanks
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Old 12-04-2004, 12:15 AM
Cleveland Guy Cleveland Guy is offline
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Default Re: Standard Play?

Call the Flop Bet (STOP)
Lead out on the turn (GO)
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