$11 Rebuy.How much at first break would make the addon not worthwhile?

Toddy · #1 10-20-2005, 12:24 PM

Just a thought on this. Obviously if you have a huge bankroll you might as well spend the extra $10 no matter what. Lately at first break I've had between 6-15K which makes the add-on very important (15-33% more chips), but is there a number that would make it not really worth the money? Is there a point to spend an extra $10 to make your stack go from 41-43k for example?

Exitonly · #2 10-20-2005, 12:28 PM

this has been discussed ad-nauseum.

If you have what the average stack will be, when ITM, would be a good guess of when to not add-on. (Rough estimate would be 60k for the 10:15 rebuy)

That's according to Fossilman.

betgo · #3 10-20-2005, 12:29 PM

If you have a big stack, you want the cheap extra chips more. You have a shot at $15K. Why save on $10?

Exitonly · #4 10-20-2005, 12:31 PM

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well that's not right.. they're less and less important the bigger your stack.

Me adding 66% to my stack is way more helpful than adding say 10%

Toddy · #5 10-20-2005, 12:34 PM

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I'm not saying for me. I always do the add-on. I just thought there had to be some discussion on this. Say your bankroll was small.

Toddy · #6 10-20-2005, 12:36 PM

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you want the cheap extra chips more

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well that's not right.. they're less and less important the bigger your stack.

Me adding 66% to my stack is way more helpful than adding say 10%

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Ya this is exactly what i meant. If for instance you hit a bunch of double ups and got to 90K chips on first break I'd probably still do the add on, but it probably would not be the correct play. You follow Exitonly, right?

Exitonly · #7 10-20-2005, 12:38 PM

Did you see my first response? it covered that, and it said at what point it would become Neutrarl EV.

betgo · #8 10-20-2005, 12:38 PM

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you want the cheap extra chips more

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well that's not right.. they're less and less important the bigger your stack.

Me adding 66% to my stack is way more helpful than adding say 10%

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Sklansky agress with you, but you are both wrong. Yeh the chips make more difference to you with a shorter stack. However, the real money is at the final table. Adding on to a big stack gives you a lot more than $10 in expected win increase.

Exitonly · #9 10-20-2005, 12:40 PM

Uh.. back that up with some math, because it doesnt make any sense.

edit: Basically you're telling me you'll have a higher EV w/ a 40k stack than a 5k one..

Thanks.

Your EV will increase more with an increase from 3k to 5k, than it will from 40k to 42k.

Without a doubt, please, try and prove me wrong.

Toddy · #10 10-20-2005, 12:46 PM

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you want the cheap extra chips more

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well that's not right.. they're less and less important the bigger your stack.

Me adding 66% to my stack is way more helpful than adding say 10%

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Sklansky agress with you, but you are both wrong. Yeh the chips make more difference to you with a shorter stack. However, the real money is at the final table. Adding on to a big stack gives you a lot more than $10 in expected win increase.

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Obviously it's better to have more chips. Thats not the arguement. Say for example you play 1 rebuy. SO with $21 you got 90,000 chips. For the extra $10 you're getting 2,000 chips. So you're spending 33% additional money to get about 2% more chips.