Cold call/smoothbet

jason_t · #1 09-12-2005, 12:57 AM

UTG is 2+2er colgin and Button is Harv72b.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 3 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button raises, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets

TheHammer24 · #2 09-12-2005, 01:00 AM

That's hot

davet · #3 09-12-2005, 01:05 AM

Is this a classic top pair - vs - straight draw? Or rather, is this how you read this hand?

newhizzle · #4 09-12-2005, 01:08 AM

was this a serious game or was harv "cold-calling for value" here

cuz what is he coldcalling with in this spot

jason_t · #5 09-12-2005, 01:10 AM

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was this a serious game

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Yes.

cold_cash · #6 09-12-2005, 01:12 AM

I would likely just call down from the turn raise since I think we'll see the same hand or a better one a lot of the time.

What hands might Harv have here? I'm leaning toward AQ, 99 or QKs, none of which I think will be folding, but some might be raising.*

I'd hate to get raised and fold and be shown QK, and I'd hate to call down a raise and see 99 or AQ. Also, if he has a hand like 88 I don't want him to get off the hook.

*This range could be completely off.

newhizzle · #7 09-12-2005, 01:13 AM

what is he cold-calling with here, K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], or maybe 99 or QJs?

jason_t · #8 09-12-2005, 01:14 AM

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what is he cold-calling with here, K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], or maybe 99 or QJs?

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He would 3-bet 99.

davet · #9 09-12-2005, 01:23 AM

I would think that harv would call most of the hands he would want to raise here. I would discount AKs, AQs, KQs, AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT becaue he would have re- raised these PF.

So that leave JTs, JTo, 99, A9s

I would be leary of KQo, AQo. I think that he would likely re- raise here as well.

PS. I still think Harv is on a straight draw, but i wouldn't discount a set.

Luv2DriveTT · #10 09-12-2005, 01:23 AM

The range of hands that Harv could hold that you beat is rather small (assuming he is playing normally). I can't imagine anything but 99, TT, or AJ that he might limp in with that you beat unless he was setting a trap (unlikely), or KQ which you would tie. I would assume he would raise with JJ on the button here. I don't expect him to limp in with a hand such as QJs, QTs, KJs, or pocket pairs below 99. With all of the above hands (with the exception of KQ of course) I doubt he would play the flop and turn the way he did.

Therefore... I don't like the raise. Hero is either behind, or splitting the pot far too often. On the bright side this is the best thing about playing another respected 2+2'er, their range of hands are generally easy to determine.

Question - would he 3-bet AQs in this game? I think he might.

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