NOT a bad beat story but just asking for improvements

Maybe I shouldn't have called the huge flop re-raise? The villian is a fish (LPP) 41 VPIP 6 PFR

Thanks for the comments

Table Table 36766 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: jfgmfrh48 ( $57.91 )
Seat 2: uconn321 ( $101.70 )
Seat 3: Eagle_Fan_11 ( $196.11 )
Seat 5: LIQUOR2P0KER ( $98.17 )
Seat 6: unc1202 ( $72.92 )
Seat 4: hauchen ( $92 )
LIQUOR2P0KER posts small blind [$0.50].
unc1202 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hauchen [ A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
jfgmfrh48 folds.
uconn321 raises [$3.50].
Eagle_Fan_11 calls [$3.50].
hauchen raises [$15].
LIQUOR2P0KER folds.
unc1202 folds.
uconn321 calls [$11.50].
Eagle_Fan_11 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
uconn321 checks.
hauchen bets [$30].
uconn321 raises [$85].
hauchen is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]

[yvesaint]

Yes, and it looks like you lost to AKs. 6 PFR does not mean he's going to be raising 66, 33, or 22 pre-flop.

If u didnt put him on sets then my flop play would be correct?

[4_2_it]

Villain raises UTG-1 and calls a large re-raise. Since villain is a fish his range is wide, say 77-AA, AK-QJ. I probably call this as well and make villain show me a set or a straight here. If he is on a flush draw, then this is an autocall.

Against a TAG I would be more inclined (but probably would not) to lay this down.

Think about it this way, if you could choose a flop without an ace in it, this flop would be it(okay the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] could be the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]), so play it accordingly. I think you are up against an overpair (JJ, QQ, KK) many more times than a set.

So you would be inclined to call the reraise? Interesting how you put him on QJ (the lower end of ur range). I didn't think people called huge reraises with hands that are most likely to be dominated ...

[yvesaint]

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Villain raises UTG-1 and calls a large re-raise. Since villain is a fish his range is wide, say 77-AA, AK-QJ.


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He's a fish, he's got 41 VPIP, but he's only got 6 PFR - this isn't QJ or anything like that. I'd say TT-QQ, AKs.

[Ojo_Rojo]

This is probably perverted thinking, but your $15 reraise preflop, compared to your $92 stack, entitles you go go all in on pretty much any flop.

No way I could fold here, under any circumstances.

Ojo_Rojo

[4_2_it]

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Interesting how you put him on QJ (the lower end of ur range). I didn't think people called huge reraises with hands that are most likely to be dominated ...

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If your read on the villain is that he is fish and plays 40% of his hands, then QJs is a logical (albeit at the low end) raising hand for him. maybe he put you on AK and figured he would see a flop? What was your table image (15/4 or 30/15)? That would also influence his behavior.

If I had to rank the probabilities of his holdings based on the (limited) info available it would be something like this:

KK-JJ -- 20%
88-TT -- 20%
AK-QJ -- 40%
22-77 -- 10% (If your read was this guy was a set miner, this probability goes WAY up)
random hand (Axs, etc) - 9%
AA -- 1% (No re-raise, but maybe he was "trapping" [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

Using this read, I would call his all-in every time. Again, everything here is read dependent and your read is fish . Sure fish also get good hands, but it's their play on all their other hands that makes this +EV in the long run.

[4_2_it]

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He's a fish, he's got 41 VPIP, but he's only got 6 PFR - this isn't QJ or anything like that. I'd say TT-QQ, AKs.

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I tend to agree with you. I know that most fish are afraid to raise anything that doesn't match, but sometimes I get 'pleasantly' surprised. KQ,QJ would be at the lowest end (5%) of my range but I have seen it enough times from fish, especially in 6-Max NL 100, to not totally discount it here. I would say this is a very minor disagreement which is probably EV neutral over 100,000 hands.

I was thinking that my PFR sort of committed my entire stack, so he would be getting the correct odds to call pf in hopes of lucksacking me. So I probably shouldn't have reraised so much pf. Is this thinking correct?