Whats the line with AKos - First hand

[Shorty35]

First hand of Stars $20STT
blinds at 10/20 -- all players with T1500

MP 1 raises to T80
MP+1 calls T80
action to Hero in CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]? Call or raise? (Hero called)

Pot = T270
Flop comes 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
MP bets T100, MP+ 1 calls T100

Call or easy fold?

[goldseraph]

Preflop I would have done the same thing. On the flop, I would call the 100, you have the pots odds and backdoor flush potential.

[spentrent]

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Preflop I would have done the same thing. On the flop, I would call the 100, you have the pots odds and backdoor flush potential.

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Pot odds for what?

[spentrent]

I don't like the pre-flop call. I'd rather raise or *gasp* fold.

On the flop you're probably beat -- or someone's on a much better draw than you -- so once again, either fold or raise.

[ColdestCall]

I would have called pre-flop, though I wouldn't have much problem with a line suggesting a re-raise and then a continuation bet if checked to you on the flop given Stars deeper starting stacks.

Assuming a call pre-flop, I fold this flop without hesitation.

[ColdestCall]

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I don't like the pre-flop call. I'd rather raise or *gasp* fold.

On the flop you're probably beat -- or someone's on a much better draw than you -- so once again, either fold or raise.

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Gasp indeed. I don't think you can reasonably fold this pre-flop. Raising is definitely an option, as i mention below, and it does give you more post flop options.

If you just called before the flop, I don't think raising is such a hot idea on the flop...

[spentrent]

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Gasp indeed. I don't think you can reasonably fold this pre-flop. Raising is definitely an option, as i mention below, and it does give you more post flop options.

If you just called before the flop, I don't think raising is such a hot idea on the flop...

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Suggesting a "*gasp* fold" is my way of abstractly quantifying my dislike for the call [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

I could whine a justification for folding if I had to... I mean, a raise AND a cold-call makes my AKo feel a tad less manly...

[Scuba Chuck]

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I would have called pre-flop, though I wouldn't have much problem with a line suggesting a re-raise and then a continuation bet if checked to you on the flop given Stars deeper starting stacks.

Assuming a call pre-flop, I fold this flop without hesitation.


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This is solid advice.

If it's any consolation, coming from a known weak-tight player, I would never fold this hand preflop here. This is still a one table tournament isn't it? We're still shooting fish in a barrel aren't we? You've got great position here don't you?

[sofere]

I like the preflop call with AK as I don't want to commit too many chips on a drawing hand this early. Raise is okay, but early on in the $22s, if you miss its gonna be tough to get someone to lay down an okay hand after they commited a good amount of chips. I've seen people go to call all-ins with mid pockets after an overcard flop.

I say call PF, after the flop, if you miss, fold to any significant bet, reraise and suspiciously small bet (i.e. <40% of the pot), but fold to a reraise...probe bet if checked to you.

[ZebraAss]

I say no. I almost always fold AK early to a raise.