QQ vs TCR

DavidC · #1 02-16-2005, 09:12 AM

MP3 is LAP after 30 hands or so.

Preflop is good.

Flop: I think I should have called, planning to raise the turn. Please tell me if you agree or disagree.

Turn:
When he checked to me, I figured that I'd caught an aggressive opponent with a flush draw. I didn't think he'd bother to checkraise me after I called him on the flop 3-bet.

I was the last guy, so I bet it. I had to call the raise and the river bet. I figured that I was up against AA-KK.

How well do you guys think I played the hand?

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Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.5.
1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 raises, Hero (poster) 3-bets, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 caps, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 3-bets, Hero calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 raises, Hero calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

River: (24 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, BB folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 26 BB

flo · #2 02-16-2005, 09:18 AM

30 Hands is not much for a read. If he is loose you can be up against JJ,TT or even 99, considering the 3-bet on the flop.
PF seems standard to me, and i'd play the flop just as you.
But im a newb, so i can be totally wrong [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

DavidC · #3 02-16-2005, 09:44 AM

Thanks for the comment.

Anything you want to tell me about the Banstick, other than its price? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

flo · #4 02-16-2005, 10:21 AM

It looks funny :>

DavidC · #5 02-16-2005, 12:01 PM

Bump.

No offense to flo, but I'm looking for a few more opinions on whether I should have re-raised the turn or just called the flop.

--Dave.

Wario · #6 02-16-2005, 12:15 PM

I'd cap the flop, your hand might still be best and you've got a lot of people calling along. It he leads the turn call down.

I prefer jamming the flop over waiting for the turn as it might get Kx and Ax to fold. You're already in a good position to protect your hand and you also have a weak backdoor flush draw.

Your line isn't bad either, betting the turn after he checks to you is standard. Giving a free card with your hand in a 16BB pot would be terrible.

Standard river call in a huge pot.

jay1313 · #7 02-16-2005, 12:17 PM

I would have gone for a turn raise here. Just as likely to be up against 99 - JJ as well as KK - AA and sometimes even tilted over cards. Call the re-raise if there is one and c/c the river.

jay1313 · #8 02-16-2005, 12:18 PM

I agree with capping the flop

DavidC · #9 02-16-2005, 04:15 PM

I find 30 hands to be quite a good measurement for VPIP, much of the time, probably even 50-75% of the time.

Also, if someone's a little sLA-P or sLA-A, I note them mentally as someone who could easily swing to TA-A at any time.

Also, if I see a "fish" act really aggressive, then I know that that guy's going to change in the near future to something like LP-A, or LA-A.

Not a big deal.. I do watch these things, but I find 30 hands to be surprisingly accurate for pre-flop stuff.

Especially if you notice 50% PFR or 50% vpip 2% PFR... you know that this guy probably plays too many hands. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

DavidC · #10 02-16-2005, 04:18 PM

Good line.

It's going to be possible to protect the hand on the turn vs gutshots, but not on the flop, also. Waiting until the turn is definitely a good thing!