66 on paired board

Wario · #1 02-13-2005, 07:12 PM

Here's a hand I think I misplayed. If SB called the turn raise I was going to check behind on the river.

Fold to the flop 3-bet? SB is 18/9/1.5

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, MP1 calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, MP1 calls, Hero folds.

Thanks.

ArturiusX · #2 02-13-2005, 07:25 PM

I think he's letting you know he has the set here, I'd fold on the turn to any bet.

EliteNinja · #3 02-13-2005, 07:28 PM

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I think he's letting you know he has the set here, I'd fold on the turn to any bet.

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I agree.

Shillx · #4 02-13-2005, 07:32 PM

I would fold straight away to the turn bet.

Brad

Wario · #5 02-13-2005, 07:33 PM

His turn bet doesn't really show any more strength than his flop 3-bet so if I'm folding to a turn bet I might aswell fold to the flop check/3-bet.

Not trying to defend my turn raise too much because I don't really like it. But I thought there were a few hands an aggressive player would check/raise the flop with that I beat.

Sykes · #6 02-13-2005, 07:53 PM

I would fold on the flop after you get 3-betted. Unless this person really overplays hands like AK/AQ, you're getting soundly beating.

Note that I do love you raising with 66 here because it let's you know where you're at. But once you get 3-betting here, you need to fold and not lose any more money.

Shillx · #7 02-13-2005, 07:56 PM

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I would fold on the flop after you get 3-betted. Unless this person really overplays hands like AK/AQ, you're getting soundly beating.

Note that I do love you raising with 66 here because it let's you know where you're at. But once you get 3-betting here, you need to fold and not lose any more money.

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This is the problem with "raising for information". You make the pot so big that you almost have to call another bet on the flop getting 14:1 with good implied odds and some stoopid backdoor straight options. I would peal one here because we can make back 4 BB (8 small bets) should we hit the money card. Also, we are closing the action so we don't have to worry about a cap.

Sykes · #8 02-13-2005, 07:59 PM

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I would fold on the flop after you get 3-betted. Unless this person really overplays hands like AK/AQ, you're getting soundly beating.

Note that I do love you raising with 66 here because it let's you know where you're at. But once you get 3-betting here, you need to fold and not lose any more money.

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This is the problem with "raising for information". You make the pot so big that you almost have to call another bet on the flop getting 14:1 with good implied odds and some stoopid backdoor straight options. I would peal one here because we can make back 8 BB should we hit the money card. Also, we are closing the action so we don't have to worry about a cap.

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I don't think that 14:1 is good enough giving implied odds you do hit a 6/7/9 on the turn. I think you need about 18:1 to call here, even though you are closing the action here.