KQo, coordinated board

cbfair · #1 01-04-2005, 04:18 PM

first orbit at new table, no reads.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

At the turn, I said, "could he have KJ?" before I called. Then at the river I said, "yeah, I think he has KJ" before I called. Is the pot small enough here to fold on either of these streets?

This may be really straight forward, so I look forward to your input because I find myself in this situation alot; that is calling down with a marginal hand in a medium-sized pot. It could be a huge leak.

Edited subject to reflect my true holding. sorry for not paying attention...

davelin · #2 01-04-2005, 04:19 PM

In your title post it says you have AQo.

jrz1972 · #3 01-04-2005, 04:24 PM

If you really had KQ, I think this is a pretty obvious fold on the turn unless you have some read on BB as especially tricky or aggressive.

shadow29 · #4 01-04-2005, 04:32 PM

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If you really had KQ, I think this is a pretty obvious fold on the turn unless you have some read on BB as especially tricky or aggressive.

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I agree.

bottomset · #5 01-04-2005, 04:40 PM

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In your title post it says you have AQo.

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which would be an easy raise on the turn, KQ is a easy fold on the turn

cbfair · #6 01-04-2005, 04:44 PM

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In your title post it says you have AQo.

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which would be an easy raise on the turn, KQ is a easy fold on the turn

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Indeed. I wasn't paying real close attention and can't say why I typed AQ, but it's not what I held. KQo is the real deal. I corrected the subject.

Fold, huh? I know, maybe I just needed to hear someone else say it.

bottomset · #7 01-04-2005, 04:54 PM

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In your title post it says you have AQo.

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which would be an easy raise on the turn, KQ is a easy fold on the turn

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Indeed. I wasn't paying real close attention and can't say why I typed AQ, but it's not what I held. KQo is the real deal. I corrected the subject.

Fold, huh? I know, maybe I just needed to hear someone else say it.

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to call down you are putting up 2BB to win 7BB, or 3.5/1 he bet into you on the turn on a scare card ... basically do you think he's bluffing/betting a weaker hand 20% of the time .. if so call down, otherwise fold wait for a better read of his play

ucfryan · #8 01-04-2005, 05:41 PM

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At the turn, I said, "could he have KJ?" before I called. Then at the river I said, "yeah, I think he has KJ" before I called.

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Then why'd you call? I think this is a pretty easy fold.

PokerIsLife · #9 01-04-2005, 05:50 PM

You also have to worry about weaker players playing QT or AT and not just KJ. Like everyone else mentioned that you should fold on the turn, unless you have a good read on the player.