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Old 10-20-2005, 01:42 AM
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Default JJ on river A vs two passives. Anyone value bet here?

Poker Network 1/2 10 handed

Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG+2 is loose passive with a pfr of 5%, af approx 0.6
MP1 is loose passive

PRE-FLOP
(2 folds), UTG+2 raises, MP1 calls, Hero 3-bets, (5 folds), UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

FLOP (3 players): 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10 SB)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

TURN (3 players) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.5 BB)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

RIVER (3 players) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9.5 BB)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero ?

I know both of my opponents are passive, so if I get raised, it's an easy fold, in fact, most aces of theirs wil probably just call. Despite that, I'm still not convinced that there's value in a bet here. What's calling me that I beat? 99 and TT if the raiser raises that. Any 8 or 6 from the coldcaller. But shouldn't I expect to see Ax, KK, and QQ more often than makes a bet here profitable?

Does anyone's decision change if the action is the same on a Q or K river?
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