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Old 02-12-2005, 11:07 PM
digitalis digitalis is offline
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Default Overcards and backdoor nut draws on ragged flop

Not real sure if I played this correctly.

BB calls too much, but is better than your average nanolimit
player.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

I think there is a chance that I can win the pot immediately if I bet here. If raised, I'll fold.

River: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

I'm probably toast. But I'm not going to be a river weenie and fold here.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB
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Old 02-12-2005, 11:52 PM
EliteNinja EliteNinja is offline
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Default Re: Overcards and backdoor nut draws on ragged flop

I'd fold the river to a bet in a pot of this size.
7.25-to-1 is not really that big.

If it were 8.5-to-1, I may consider calling it down heads up (very dependent on your opponent read).
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Old 02-13-2005, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: Overcards and backdoor nut draws on ragged flop

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BB calls too much,

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If you know the turn bet isn't going to fold him consider checking through for a free card.
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Old 02-13-2005, 08:25 AM
digitalis digitalis is offline
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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

Results:
BB has 6s 5h (full house, sixes full of jacks).
Hero has Ad Ks (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Outcome: BB wins 8.25 BB.

Slowplayed me. You're right, I probably should have folded on the river.
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Old 02-13-2005, 10:00 AM
Wario Wario is offline
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Default Re: Overcards and backdoor nut draws on ragged flop

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BB calls too much,

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If you know the turn bet isn't going to fold him consider checking through for a free card.

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Hero often has the best hand here.

I bet the turn and check behind on the river. Also I'd fold to a river bet in a pot of this size.
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Old 02-13-2005, 11:45 AM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Default Re: Overcards and backdoor nut draws on ragged flop

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BB calls too much,

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If you know the turn bet isn't going to fold him consider checking through for a free card.

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You have it reversed. The fact that BB calls too much makes the chances that your hand is the best hand on the turn. Bet and take the free showdown on river. Like others said as well, fold that river.
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