Top 2 on a one-suited flop

[BlackAces]

$3-$6 game last night. Table is fairly weak-tight from what I've observed, a dream game, really. I limp in late position behind two other limpers (one EP, one MP) with
K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. BB checks, and we see the flop:

K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB bets, EP limper raises, MP limper folds. 7 1/2 SB in the pot, and it's 2 to me. I don't have any specific reads on either player still in the hand, as I've only been at the table for 15 minutes or so.

Your play?

[scrummie2]

I'd raise while it was still SB to see what happens...just called, the guy is probably drawing for a fourth heart. Capped, he's probably got the flush, but I'd call anyway to see the turn.

Either way, if the 3-bet slows them down you might get a free river shot at your boat

[ErrantNight]

i'm inclined to say calling is your worst option.

there's probably nothing wrong with folding, as at least one of these shmucks has a heart.

but you don't know a lot about them, and you very well may have the best hand right now.

so i'm inclined to say raise this. if it's capped coming back to you and led into you on the turn, you can probably release. or you get c/r on the turn.

but i'm not sure. perhaps it's actually best to call here and see a non-heart turn, as you're not sure your raise is "charging" your opponents.

if the game is incredibly passive, i'd release. otherwise, i flip-flop between calling and raising and ultimately decide that, as i said before, i think calling is probably your worst option, and i raise and proceed with caution.

i'm relatively certain this situation has a proper answer that i'm whiffing on because i got 3 hours of sleep and i should be heading to class now.

ciao.

[BlackAces]

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i'm inclined to say calling is your worst option.


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Yeah, at no point did I consider calling, because I still had the original bettor to hear from. If he three-bets and EP caps, I've just thrown away two bets for nothing.

[chief444]

I don't think calling is as bad of an option as you think. Actually it may be the best option.

[Fat Nicky]

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I don't think calling is as bad of an option as you think. Actually it may be the best option.

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I agree with this. If a non heart falls on the turn, do you raise if it's 1 bet to you?

[chief444]

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I agree with this. If a non heart falls on the turn, do you raise if it's 1 bet to you?


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Yes. I may reconsider if there's a 3-bet on the flop though.

edit...I'd likely still raise the turn though.

[PokerBob]

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I don't think calling is as bad of an option as you think. Actually it may be the best option.

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I disagree. A big [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is gonna call, so raise it up when you're ahead. The odds of fropping a frush are pretty low. Slow down on the turn, not the frop.

[chief444]

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I disagree. A big [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is gonna call, so raise it up when you're ahead. The odds of fropping a frush are pretty low. Slow down on the turn, not the frop.

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A big [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] will call a turn raise also. I never said I'd call the flop because I'm worried about a made flush. But you win more with a turn raise than a flop raise. And you lose less when a fourth heart falls on the turn. However, that's only IF you're bet into again on the turn which is why I don't mind a flop raise. But I think if you call the flop you'll be bet into fairly often in this situation.

[mr pink]

a big [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is making money off your raise, you charge them more by raising the turn.