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Old 12-17-2005, 07:14 AM
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Default My first time laying down KK preflop. Please help.

2/3 hand at Commerce. I am UTG with KK. I raise to $15. UTG+1 calls. Next guy folds. Next guy raises to $200. He has about $100 more. I have him covered. It is folded to me. I go into the tank for 10 minutes. This guy has made some big preflop raises prior, but nothing close to this big. While I am thinking he says "if you have kings you should call" After tanking I fold. What does everyone think?
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Old 12-17-2005, 07:15 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: My first time laying down KK preflop. Please help.

Bad laydown.
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Old 12-17-2005, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: My first time laying down KK preflop. Please help.

I was looking for something a little more than that. Could you elaborate please?
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Old 12-17-2005, 07:25 AM
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Default Re: My first time laying down KK preflop. Please help.

You're playing a live 2/3 game, you have 100BB stacks, you are playing with a guy who has re-raised big a lot of times, and you have provided no other read.

Go all in.
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Old 12-17-2005, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: My first time laying down KK preflop. Please help.

To clarify, he has not re-raised ever that I can remember. I said he has raised big, to $30 or $35, but I do not remember him re-raising
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Old 12-17-2005, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: My first time laying down KK preflop. Please help.

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I was looking for something a little more than that. Could you elaborate please?

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Based on the information you gave us about villian (which is very little) I think Jim hit it spot on. Bad fold. For your fold to have been correct you needed to have one hell of a read (which you didn't tell us about). Otherwise, i think it's unlikely villian had AA
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Old 12-17-2005, 07:53 AM
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Default Re: My first time laying down KK preflop. Please help.

u went into the tank for ten minutes ?

come on
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: My first time laying down KK preflop. Please help.

"My first time laying down KK preflop"

"2/3 hand at Commerce"

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:11 AM
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Default Re: My first time laying down KK preflop. Please help.

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u went into the tank for ten minutes ?

come on

[/ QUOTE ] I was just about to say that. Ten minutes, wtf. If I was villain, I would've turned over my hand if you promised to go home.
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:55 AM
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could you tell us more about the way he said it? Was he nervous, was he calm and relaxed, did it seem like he was trying to look calm and relaxed? If he was calm, I think hes telling the truth and id call. Id probably call just based on the strength of my hand alone, but wtv. Also, I may be way off, and if someone who is better at tells than me comes along, plz feel free to correct.
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