Eli Manning

wh1t3bread · #1 12-19-2005, 10:55 AM

The Giants are 10-4 because of Tiki Barber and their run blocking. Eli has been decent and he has something to do with it. But he isn't the reason they are 10-4.

Jack of Arcades · #2 12-19-2005, 10:58 AM

Disagreeing with you a little here, Tiki's performance isn't much better than it was last year's. Their defense has been a big improvement, and their pass offense has gotten better, as well.

wh1t3bread · #3 12-19-2005, 11:10 AM

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Disagreeing with you a little here.

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Ha. What a surprise! j/k.

I think the one major thing that Tiki has done better this year is not fumble the ball. This has been something that used to plague him in the past and he has showed great improvements the last 2 years.

brettbrettr · #4 12-19-2005, 11:13 AM

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I think the one major thing that Tiki has done better this year is not fumble the ball.

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He really didn't fumble the ball much last year either. Two years ago was really bad.

wh1t3bread · #5 12-19-2005, 11:27 AM

I know, you must have missed the rest of my post where I said, "the last two years".

ThaSaltCracka · #6 12-19-2005, 10:21 PM

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The Giants are 10-4 because of Tiki Barber and their run blocking. Eli has been decent and he has something to do with it. But he isn't the reason they are 10-4.

[/ QUOTE ]the Giants are 10-4 for two reasons.
1. Tiki gained some weight
2. Strahan lost some weight

both of them are having awesome years and have totally changed their respective sides of the ball this year.

brettbrettr · #7 12-19-2005, 10:22 PM

Tiki and Strahan are certainly two of thie biggest reasons the Giants have had such a good year. But they're not the only reasons.

ThaSaltCracka · #8 12-19-2005, 10:24 PM

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Tiki and Strahan are certainly two of thie biggest reasons the Giants have had such a good year. But they're not the only reasons.

[/ QUOTE ]nawp, only reasons.

edit: and I mean this in an overly simplistic way, but without a doubt all the success of their offense can be attributed to them having a solid running game, and all their success on defense can be attributed to their excellent pass rush, which is caused mostly by Strahan.

Clarkmeister · #9 12-20-2005, 01:17 AM

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1. Tiki gained some weight

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You apparently slept through Tiki's 2004 season?

ThaSaltCracka · #10 12-20-2005, 02:48 AM

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1. Tiki gained some weight

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You apparently slept through Tiki's 2004 season?

[/ QUOTE ]no, he had an excellent year last year, but this year he tried to gain some muscle mass in the offseason. It has paid off, he is a harder runner, and will break his rushing total from last year by atleast 2 bills. Not the same Tiki as last year.