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Old 10-08-2005, 03:45 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 6max. - turned set completes FD

yeah, well played.
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Old 10-08-2005, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 6max. - turned set completes FD

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I'm betting the turn here because I might be ahead of a king here, but he could have a heart kicker so i'm protecting my hand.

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The following is far from accurate, but let's say she has king 1/3 of the time. Let's say she has 1 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in her hand 4/9 of the time and an additional [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] will river 9/44 of the time.
Cobined this is 3%.
3% of the time we are protecting a 55$ pot. Is this really worth giving away substantial equity on a huge pot in case she allready flushed? Not to talk about additional riverequity from a K if no heart rivers.

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No offense but you are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY underestimating the amount of time he has a king here......he has to have a reason for calling on the flop and i think it's closer to 50/50 on king flush draw, maybe even more towards the king side because people call preflop raises with kings more than they do with sc's.
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Old 10-08-2005, 03:54 PM
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She instapushed the river, I instafolded. Just smelled like a flush, which missed a turn CR.

FWIW, this was the conversation after the hand:

Me: nice bet
Her: 3 of a kind
Me: sure
Her : 77
Her: in my hand
Her: flush i was afraid
Me: well played
Her: thanks
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Old 10-08-2005, 03:59 PM
vanHelsing vanHelsing is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 6max. - turned set completes FD

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I'm betting the turn here because I might be ahead of a king here, but he could have a heart kicker so i'm protecting my hand.

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The following is far from accurate, but let's say she has king 1/3 of the time. Let's say she has 1 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in her hand 4/9 of the time and an additional [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] will river 9/44 of the time.
Cobined this is 3%.
3% of the time we are protecting a 55$ pot. Is this really worth giving away substantial equity on a huge pot in case she allready flushed? Not to talk about additional riverequity from a K if no heart rivers.

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No offense but you are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY underestimating the amount of time he has a king here......he has to have a reason for calling on the flop and i think it's closer to 50/50 on king flush draw, maybe even more towards the king side because people call preflop raises with kings more than they do with sc's.

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Maybe, but she might just test the waters with a flop call with any piece of the board (remember she knows I am almost auto C-betting).
If she is really 50% to have a K, well, then we are talking about a 5% scenario instead of 3 %.

EDIT: and the more often she has a K, the more often we have added value on the river...
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:30 PM
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I like the turn check.

to those that recommend bet, what do you do with AK no heart on the turn? still bet?

do you guys always bet when the flush turns? I think longterm thats a very bad move.

and I fold this river because I think its a missed checkraise.

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There is very little reason to assume your opponent has made a flush in this hand. Letting them go runner runner with 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is just sickening.

And anyone who folds any hands worse than second set to a second barrel heads up does not come anywhere near my definition of "slightly calling station." It would be closer to "rock"
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Old 10-08-2005, 09:38 PM
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Assuming she had (i) the flush, (ii) the set she claimed (unlikely?), where was the value in her river push?

Just trying to understand how bad her play was, or if I'm missing something.
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