Two 2/4 nl Hands by a tourney player

Jman28 · #1 09-17-2005, 06:47 AM

Hey guys. I'm outta my domain here, but I'm trying to venture into cash games a little. Definitely a lot to learn. I feel SUPER weak/tight since that's how I play early in tourneys and I think I'm trying to avoid big pots since I never play this deep stacked.

Both hands against the same villain. I haven't been at the table for long, but he seems like a solid player. Nothing outta line yet. I'll explain my thinking on both hands after I get some comments/questions. I assume you'll want reasons for my minraise in hand #1. I've got some, but I wanna hear some thoughts first.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($464.80)
BB ($516.10)
UTG ($1248.28)
UTG+1 ($657.30)
MP1 ($494.20)
MP2 ($392)
Hero ($402)
Button ($384)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $4, 3 folds, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($22) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10.

Turn: ($42) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($42) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $25, Hero calls $25.

Final Pot: $92

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 ($573.20)
MP3 ($1102.68)
CO ($602.60)
Button ($527.20)
SB ($293.10)
BB ($392.80)
Hero ($527.70)
UTG+1 ($377.50)
MP1 ($228)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero calls $4, 3 folds, MP3 calls $4, 2 folds, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($16) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $11, Hero calls $11, MP3 calls $11, SB folds.

Turn: ($49) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $35, MP3 raises to $100, BB folds, Hero calls $65.

River: ($249) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, planning to fold to a significant bet.

Heimdal · #2 09-17-2005, 07:49 AM

You play almost as weak tight as me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Hand 1.

Some players like minimumraises. Some don't.

I think you should make a real bet on flop. Rembember, it's not a tournament where you want to win a lots of small pots. Winning small pots is ok in cash games, but it is obviously better to win big pots.
I dont think underbetting is a good play at Party 400NL in general. There are situations where it can be a good play. But not here.

Turn, checking is ok, but you can also bet. Easy call on river.

Hand 2.

You should get some more $ in on flop. You have a full stack and a good hand on a draw heavy flop, raise. You should rarely slowplay in this game and this hand is definitely not one you want to slowplay.
On turn, reraise. You are only behind to 66 (+ the unlikely JJ and KK) and why would he not raise a set on that flop. He could have KcQc, KJ, QcTc etc.
River is weird, I dont know what is this best to do.

This hand is so much easier to play if you raise the flop.

lapoker17 · #3 09-17-2005, 07:55 AM

The play of hand 1 seems fine, but your bets are too small, pf, flop etc...

Pretty sure villain has KJ in hand 2. If he has clubs, he played it like a retard. In any event, I'd go ahead and 3 bet the turn - if he has 666 so be it.

ahnuld · #4 09-17-2005, 12:06 PM

Dont min raise preflop. Its only good in 10bb tourneys after the first 2 hours. In cash games with 100bb or more its just dumb. Bet full pot on flop, your weak bet was gonna get called by any pair or draw. Call no river is fine.

Hand 2, Id bet almost anything he has KJ. If he has a set of sixes so be it, but reraise turn.

Allinlife · #5 09-17-2005, 01:34 PM

bet hard raise harder with sets