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Old 08-13-2005, 05:12 PM
NiR NiR is offline
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Default advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.

Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 2: crazy_doc ( $1980 )
Seat 3: kev1701 ( $3570 )
Seat 6: nir101684 ( $2450 )
Trny:14806423 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nir101684 [ Kd Js ]
>You have options at Table 13878 Table!.
nir101684 raises [325].
crazy_doc is all-In [1905]
kev1701 folds.


i had reads but lets disregard it for now. what would you guys do in general without much reads.
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:45 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.

What buy-in level is this?

That raise is not the kind I think you should make without a solid plan for what to do if you're reraised. I have no problem folding the hand at this point, and I also would have raised to 500 preflop.

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Old 08-13-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.

I fold, no question.
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Old 08-13-2005, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.

autofold. if its not, plug them leaks [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] holla
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Old 08-13-2005, 09:35 PM
camo1131 camo1131 is offline
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Default Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.

Dont mean to hijack but what if we change the situation a little bit, lets say:

Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: crazy_doc ( $2100 )
Seat 3: kev1701 ( $2900 )
Seat 6: nir101684 ( $2000 )
Seat 7: xxxxxxxxx ( $3000 )
Trny:14806423 Level:6
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nir101684 [ Kd Js ]
Seat 7: xxxxxxxxx folds

Is this still an easy fold?
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Old 08-13-2005, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.

Of course not.
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Old 08-13-2005, 09:50 PM
camo1131 camo1131 is offline
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Default Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.

OK, is bubble or the blinds at 200/400 that makes this a autopush as oppossed to the previous situation. They both contribute, but which moreso?
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Old 08-15-2005, 12:22 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.

[ QUOTE ]
autofold. if its not, plug them leaks [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] holla

[/ QUOTE ]

I raise this at the 11's. Most players there won't play back at you without a premium holding. At the 33's, it's highly dependent on the players involved, so I might go either way. At the 55's (highest I can comment) I'd probably be too worried that an opponent would figure out I have to fold to a raise and push any two back at me.

Seriously, if raising KJ 3-handed is a leak, I have a problem.
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Old 08-15-2005, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.

Well, you just push initially here (and anything else is horribly wrong).

Above, I guess it's a fold.

It's all about the blind size.
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Old 08-15-2005, 01:22 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.

[ QUOTE ]
Well, you just push initially here (and anything else is horribly wrong).

Above, I guess it's a fold.

It's all about the blind size.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why open-push for 16BB?
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