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Old 08-03-2005, 04:16 PM
wh1t3bread wh1t3bread is offline
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Default Should Pedro be thrown into the NL Cy Young Mix?

Almost all the talk is about Clemens and Carpenter. His record stands right now at 12-3. He will start about 10 or 11 more games so it is plausible that he can record 8 more wins and reach the 20 game plateau. He leads the NL in strikeouts (155) and opponents batting average against (.184). His numbers say he should be in consideration. I still give it to Carpenter, but Pedro is putting together a great first year with the Mets.

ERA W L G GS CG ShO IP BB K RATIO BAVG
P. Martinez 2.76 12 3 21 21 2 0 150.0 29 155 0.85 .184
R. Clemens 1.45 10 4 22 22 0 0 149.0 42 135 0.95 .188
C. Carpenter 2.26 16 4 22 22 5 4 163.1 37 151 0.99 .213
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Old 08-03-2005, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Should Pedro be thrown into the NL Cy Young Mix?

Yeah but I don't think Pedro will win. But I think Roy Oswalt gets overshadowed even though he should be in contention.

Oswalt- 14-8, 2.40 ERA, 117 ks, 4 CG,
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Old 08-03-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Should Pedro be thrown into the NL Cy Young Mix?

I agree about Oswalt. If Clemens wasn't wearing the same uniform you would hear about him alot more I think.
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Old 08-03-2005, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: Should Pedro be thrown into the NL Cy Young Mix?

absolutely. Pedro should always be considered a contender for the Cy Young.
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Old 08-03-2005, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: Should Pedro be thrown into the NL Cy Young Mix?

What makes you say Carpenter should get it over Clemens? It seems like everyone now is saying Carpenter is #1, but as much as I hate Clemens, he's having an absolutely incredible season.
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Old 08-03-2005, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Should Pedro be thrown into the NL Cy Young Mix?

If Smoltz keeps going his name will start being mentioned too. 8-0 in his last 10 starts.
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Old 08-03-2005, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: Should Pedro be thrown into the NL Cy Young Mix?

How is Clemens so frickin good every year [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 08-03-2005, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: Should Pedro be thrown into the NL Cy Young Mix?

thrown into it? hes been the best pitcher so far in the NL to date.
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:02 PM
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thrown into it? hes been the best pitcher so far in the NL to date.

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Clemens and Carpenter are both having better seasons.
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:20 PM
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thrown into it? hes been the best pitcher so far in the NL to date.

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Clemens and Carpenter are both having better seasons.

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Clemens : 149IP 135K 42BB 100 HITS HBP 2 HR 6

Carpenter: 163 125K 37BB 125 HITS HBP 1 HR 9

Martinez: 150 155K 29BB 99 HITS HBP 2 HR 11

(FWIW, Carpenter plays in the most hitters friendly park, with pedro in the most pitcher friendly)
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