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Old 12-13-2005, 07:25 PM
Obliky Obliky is offline
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Default K7s..this line cant be good

I took a bit of an abnormal (aggro) line here...

This is my first hand at the table.

CO is 79/8/0.7 after 40 hands...

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (2.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>....

Represent! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: K7s..this line cant be good

I bet that flop every time.

i don't understand firing again on the river, what do you think he has that he isn't calling with?
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:29 PM
gharp gharp is offline
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Default Re: K7s..this line cant be good

I'm not positive, but it sure looks like you're trying to bluff a calling station! You wouldn't bet doing that now, would you? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I mean, does this guy bet with A-high on this board? Does he fold another pair?
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:39 PM
Obliky Obliky is offline
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Default Re: K7s..this line cant be good

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I bet that flop every time.

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So if we bet the flop whats your plan for the rest of the hand if we get called?

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i don't understand firing again on the river, what do you think he has that he isn't calling with?

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I'm not positive, but it sure looks like you're trying to bluff a calling station! You wouldn't bet doing that now, would you?

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I guess i was hoping he would just give up...this is a problem for me.
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: K7s..this line cant be good

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I'm not positive, but it sure looks like you're trying to bluff a calling station! You wouldn't bet doing that now, would you? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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78 VP$IP + 0.7 AF /= calling station

Of course, an actual read would help - I'm not making this play unless I think villain will fold to aggression. It doesn't look like we know that.
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:33 PM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Default Re: K7s..this line cant be good

Yeah, bet the flop. If heads-up and that's the turn I'd fire one more. If 3-way and that's the turn I'd check-fold it.
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:59 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: K7s..this line cant be good

I don't like the flop bet. So many hands are calling, and theres no good turn cards to fire a second barrel too except an out.
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Old 12-13-2005, 11:00 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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I don't like the flop bet. So many hands are calling, and theres no good turn cards to fire a second barrel too except an out.

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once the first guy checks and we're against one of the worst players in the world, i see nothing wrong with betting for value, and then also betting for value on the turn barring a really bad card for us.

i think betting is much much better than check/calling.
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