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Old 11-03-2005, 06:17 PM
Jorge10 Jorge10 is offline
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Default Small Blind Suited Junk

I am SB, I got J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
.5/1 Limit.

Preflop: 2 limps, I complete, BB checks.

Flop:J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img](2 dollars in the middle)

I bet out, BB folds, First limper who limped from middle position raises me, second limper folds, I call(bad?).

Turn:3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img](4 in the middle)

I bet out, Limper raises me, I fold.

For some reason I think I screwed this up pretty badly. I just dont know where or how because I am not very good at this game.

What do you guys think?
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Small Blind Suited Junk

If you thought you were ahead enough to bet the turn, why not 3bet the flop?
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Small Blind Suited Junk

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If you thought you were ahead enough to bet the turn, why not 3bet the flop?

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Good point. Didnt think about that.

I guess the only answer is because I suck.

Also if I bet 3 bet the flop how do I play the rest of the hand?

Say he caps, do I bet out?

Or if he just calls and I bet out and he raises do I call him down?
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: Small Blind Suited Junk

First, you don't suck. You may be learning the game, but that's way different than sucking. Quit beating yourself up if you want to get better.

Betting the flop was good. Calling wasn't bad. If you 3-bet the flop and get raised, I'd go into c/c mode. If villian calls flop 3-bet, I'm pushing the rest of the way. I think you've got the best hand often enough to push this hand.
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:33 PM
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YOu are correct to cap on the flop since it is only 1 bet back to you, but I would check on the turn.
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:22 PM
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Betting the flop was good. The call was good.
Check call from there.

You keep telling us you're no good at poker, yet you play .50/1? Move down and learn all the basics, and read books [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: Small Blind Suited Junk

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Betting the flop was good. The call was good.
Check call from there.

You keep telling us you're no good at poker, yet you play .50/1? Move down and learn all the basics, and read books [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Its the lowest party offers.

Also I like the check call line, the table was sort of tightish, I think a check call down was probably in order.

The 3 bet flop thing is also interesting, I think im getting the hang of it, seems betting the flop heavily is just used to get info.
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:27 PM
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As another relatively newbie, I'm confused why you wouldn't have folded the flop. Preflop, you had to be hoping to flop a flush draw (8:1 odds). Reasonable to complete your SB for that. But when that flop came, why not cut the losses and run? What outs are there at that point for the J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] that give reasonable odds? Even drawing a jack on the turn isn't that strong of a hand. 3 outs, 2 positions, 12% chance to pull a possible winner. This seems like the kind of play that although I might squeak out a tiny statistical gain over the long-haul, it's not really worth my neurons when I could be moving on to another table with a higher likelihood of yielding results (assuming I'm multitabling).
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: Small Blind Suited Junk

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I'm confused why you wouldn't have folded the flop.

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Because Hero has the best hand a lot of the time, some outs to improve to the best hand, and a number of hidden outs to split if he's behind.
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:00 AM
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Doh! My mistake. I missed the jack in the flop somehow. Agreed that I certainly wouldn't not fold the flop holding top pair. 16% chance for a flush on this one. Jacks might stand on their own. I would've played this exactly as posted except I would've called down on the river. No reason to fold when, to all evidence, you're ahead.

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