Getting 4-bet on a steal

[catlover]

Hero openraises in the hijack with J8s. [Some of you may debate this play; hero thinks it is correct and standard.]

Now comes the interesting part. Cutoff 3-bets, SB caps, folded to hero, now what?

[highlife]

depends on tightness and postflop skill of both players. also is this full ring or SH?

you're getting 5-1 odds on your money to make the call, so, while i think it is very close, if you're up against AK and a middle pair like 10's your only a 4-1 dog PF. I dont think either decision is horrible, but i'm for calling here.

However, I dont know how standard opening in the HJ with J8s is......in fact, i think it's too loose.

[Dominic]

I think you can call getting 5-1 if you're only go to go forward with a great flop: 2-pair, trips, straight draw. If you can get away from a J-high flop with action in front of you, I don't think you're losing much EV here.

But folding would be my choice of action.

[DcifrThs]

you need to include people's ranges
this may be why your downswing's contagious
plus getting involved
without position resolved,
could explain your results so outrageous

limrick inspired by dave.

Barron