Two $22 hands I need help with.

***** Hand History for Game 3014628194 *****
100/200 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 17298320) - Thu Nov 10 16:16:36 EST 2005
Table Table 67726 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Marielouis72 (2025)
Seat 3: Hero (730)
Seat 4: sibir89 (1010)
Seat 6: waverider2 (185)
Seat 8: kcteach13 (530)
Seat 9: Billg573 (1455)
Seat 10: DMACM (2065)
Billg573 posts small blind (50)
DMACM posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ad, Tc ]
Marielouis72 folds.
Hero raises (730) to 730
Hero is all-In.


Just a simple pre-flop hand, not sure what to do.

***** Hand History for Game 3014935838 *****
100/200 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 17299628) - Thu Nov 10 17:19:35 EST 2005
Table Table 67564 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: kosta777 (970)
Seat 2: DEKEBOW (1175)
Seat 4: Hemmz (765)
Seat 6: fauski (2785)
Seat 7: Mud_Guru (505)
Seat 9: Hero (945)
Seat 10: alaq24 (855)
Mud_Guru posts small blind (50)
Brecaryn posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kd, Jd ]
alaq24 folds.
kosta777 folds.
DEKEBOW folds.
Hemmz folds.
fauski calls (100)
Mud_Guru calls (50)
Hero raises (845) to 945
Hero is all-In.


Not sure if this is a push or not, its a $22 SNG and the SB is pretty short stacked, I think I can expect a call there pretty often, is this worth it?

[pineapple888]

I think the first push is shaky at the 22s from early position, unless the table has been unusually tight.

I don't like the second push at all. With both a big stack and a shorty in there, you are way too likely to get called.

[junkmail3]

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I think the first push is shaky at the 22s from early position, unless the table has been unusually tight.

I don't like the second push at all. With both a big stack and a shorty in there, you are way too likely to get called.

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I was going to advocate pushing the second hand, because I love pushing limpers. But those are probably the two worst stacks to push against. More average stacks would be good. The large stack can take a hit if he calls, and the shorty might be desperate.

I think the first is a fold and the second a call.

[se2schul]

Hand 1:
Wait for better position to push. You have 7BBs and aren't desperate yet.

Hand 2:
This is a move I'll do when the BB is 200, or if I have less chips. With 9 BB the reward isn't worth the risk of going broke.

[pooh74]

I agree with everyone else.

Hand 2: If button (bigstack) folds, remember it would probably be a huge mistake for SB to fold...keep that in mind when you do this.

Ok second one is'nt a push, pretty much what I thought, now what about if the SB folds, can I push the big stack here?

[pineapple888]

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Ok second one is'nt a push, pretty much what I thought, now what about if the SB folds, can I push the big stack here?

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I'd need a very good read that he is folding before messing around with KJs here.

[SonnyJay]

Hand 1:
Fold. Good position + crappy cards > Bad position + above average cards. Too far OOP to push this with 7BB+.

Hand 2:
Check. As people have pointed out, these are probably the worst stacks to do this against. Take your free flop and play it hard if you hit it well. Even if the SB didn't call, I wouldn't push the big stack. If the big stack folded and the SB limped, though, I probably push it.

-SonnyJay