2 10/20 River Rape Hands

#1 12-14-2005, 01:19 AM

Easy folds?

#1

45/20/2.3 Villain. 6 handed.

I'm dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the SB. Villain raises UTG, Chaser cold calls in the CO, I 3 bet, BB folds, all call.

Flop: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet, both call.

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet, Villain raises, CO folds, I three bet, Villain calls.

River: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I...? (11.5BB in pot)

#2

24/17/2.2 Villain. An ok TAG who I believe is a 2+2er. 4 handed.

I'm dealt Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG. I raise, Villain 3 bets on the button, both blinds fold, I call.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check, Villain bets, I raise, Villain re-raises, I cap.

Turn: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet, Villain raises, I re-raise, Villain calls.

River: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I...? (13.5BB in pot)

Even though Villain in #1 is LAGish I'm having trouble fabricating a situation where he doesn't have the K. I don't see a PP making it past the turn and I have trouble finding a 4 or 5 in even his starting range. I also expect these hands to check behind a large portion of the time. In hand #2 I'm ahead of KJ (I assume my opponent would impulsively cap with a chop on the turn rather than wait to see if the board paired, but it's possible as well, I guess) but I, again, expect KJ to check behind a large portion of that very small number of times he has that hand.

Or they could be easy crying calls. Opinions?

TStoneMBD · #2 12-14-2005, 01:31 AM

1: bf

2: cf

Victor · #3 12-14-2005, 01:38 AM

i think checkfolding is bad in hand 2. villain could have kj, k9 (highly discounted) or q10. i like check call i guess.

TStoneMBD · #4 12-14-2005, 01:40 AM

3bets the flop with K9?

doesnt cap the turn with QT?

only possible hand i see is KJ and alot of people dont 3bet KJo there. he also might not raise the turn with it.

Victor · #5 12-14-2005, 01:45 AM

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3bets the flop with K9?

doesnt cap the turn with QT?

only possible hand i see is KJ and alot of people dont 3bet KJo there. he also might not raise the turn with it.

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ppl do dumb stuff.