Could this top the AJ hand?? who knows..

[raptor517]

ok, so last time, in that AJ post, i talked about folding on the bubble with AJs to a pusher who you KNOW is shoving a lot of hands. this guy is a solid player, and has been playing a very good bubble.. likely shoving a LOT of hands in this spot. so.. with that in mind.. heres the hand [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

#Game No : 2251304150
***** Hand History for Game 2251304150 *****
NL Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:13340584 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Thursday, June 23, 14:34:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 12343 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: kb_33 ( $1360 )
Seat 5: cgcaughran ( $815 )
Seat 7: IHateUBaller ( $6100 )
Seat 2: Itachi86 ( $1725 )
Trny:13340584 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Itachi86 [ Ah Qs ]
IHateUBaller raises [1100].
kb_33 folds.
IHateUBaller: oops
IHateUBaller: meant to shove
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
Itachi86 will be using his time bank for this hand.
Itachi86 ????????

holla

[microbet]

His pushing range may be wide, but what's his range on raising to 1100 and then saying "Oops, meant to shove"?

[raptor517]

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His pushing range may be wide, but what's his range on raising to 1100 and then saying "Oops, meant to shove"?

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i actually dont think that meant anything. i do that sometimes, the slider doesnt go all the way.. etc. ignore that, lol. holla

[Unarmed]

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His pushing range may be wide, but what's his range on raising to 1100 and then saying "Oops, meant to shove"?

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His pushing range may be wide, but what's his range on raising to 1100 UTG against a BB that's likely pot committed?

[microbet]

Ok, Fold it. Terrible call. I reserve the right to run ICM and change my mind.

I sometimes don't slide all the way when I meant to, but I never chat about it.

edit: Ok, ICM HATES calling here.

[gumpzilla]

Pretty broad here, I'm guessing. Even if he doubles up the shorty, he's still way ahead of three roughly even short stacks and should still be able to exert himself quite easily.

EDIT: I voted call, though I haven't run any math on it. I think we're going to be at least 60% to win the pot, frequently more, and I think we stand to gain a fair amount of equity by doubling up in this instance, enough to make 60% a good enough frequency of winning. (EDIT AGAIN: If you took about 1000 from big stack and gave it to me, I probably fold instead.)

[pokerlaw]

I voted fold. Let the shortie who is sittin in the BB behind you call...

[schilling38]

seems like an easy call to me. Blinds are big enough and you could probably wait the shortie out, but you just said the guy is pushing all the time, and likely has any 2 cards. Why not call as what is most likely a 60/40 if not more of a favorite? Aren't you playing for first place?

If I'm way off I'd like to understand why.

[Bigwig]

As 2nd chip stack, I fold.

[Unarmed]

Oh BTW if he's pushing any two you'd rather have AJs (or ATs) than AQo. You know that though so why am I posting this...