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Old 06-11-2005, 07:31 PM
PoBoy321 PoBoy321 is offline
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Default Re: The pope is an idiot. Catholics are dumb in general.

How is it a dumb post? The church made a rule. Don't screw around. You break the rule. There are consequences. I don't see what's dumb about that statement.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: The pope is an idiot. Catholics are dumb in general.

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their bizzare practices

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Are you suggesting that abstinence is *not* an effective measure to prevent contracting AIDS?

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Abstinence is the only truly effective "measure" to prevent sexually transmitted diseases....

"Abstinence-only" education is a proven less effective prevention strategy than "abstinence-based" approaches - and that is the real issue here, isn't it?
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: The pope is an idiot. Catholics are dumb in general.

Out of curiosity, if people aren't following the church's rule that they shouldn't screw around, why do they think that if the church made a rule saying that you should wear condoms, people would do it?
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: The pope is an idiot. Catholics are dumb in general.

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"Abstinence-only" education is a proven less effective prevention strategy than "abstinence-based" approaches - and that is the real issue here, isn't it?

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No, because we aren't talking about education.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: The pope is an idiot. Catholics are dumb in general.

Clark just bumped this because he is awesome. Please don't make slanderous comments when you don't understand the whole picture.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: The pope is an idiot. Catholics are dumb in general.

because people would much rather have sex with condoms than abstain? duh
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: The pope is an idiot. Catholics are dumb in general.

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their bizzare practices

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Are you suggesting that abstinence is *not* an effective measure to prevent contracting AIDS?

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Abstinence is the only truly effective "measure" to prevent sexually transmitted diseases....

"Abstinence-only" education is a proven less effective prevention strategy than "abstinence-based" approaches - and that is the real issue here, isn't it?

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Ummm, no. That's not the issue at all. The Church isn't in the disease prevention business.

Again, people don't listen to the pope about abstinence, it's silly to think they'll suddenly start listening about condoms. Blaming the Church when their teachings are 100% effective is to absolve the idiots who contract AIDS of any and all personal responsibility. They messed up, they die. Them's the breaks.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: The pope is an idiot. Catholics are dumb in general.

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because people would much rather have sex with condoms than abstain? duh

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Well obviously, but if they're having unprotected sex now, why does anyone think that they would start having protected sex, simply because the church tells them to?
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: The pope is an idiot. Catholics are dumb in general.

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Out of curiosity, if people aren't following the church's rule that they shouldn't screw around, why do they think that if the church made a rule saying that you should wear condoms, people would do it?

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Exactly.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: The pope is an idiot. Catholics are dumb in general.

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Out of curiosity, if people aren't following the church's rule that they shouldn't screw around, why do they think that if the church made a rule saying that you should wear condoms, people would do it?

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My problem is not with teaching abstinance it is with DISCOURAGING condom use.

YES! Many people try to follow the teachings of the church. Since they are going to have sex anyway (my sample size is 5000 years of history) these same people might rationalize that at least they could use protection while doing so. Instead the Pope is encouraging them NOT TO USE CONDOMS that is why I said that he is an idiot. It is not hard to make the inference that Catholicism is contributing to high risk behavior.
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