Don't Use Prophecy!

[bkbluedevil]

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Did you use their software or were you accessing their system on a web based browser?

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Used their software.

[Freudian]

It is somewhat ironic that they can detect the program but can't stop people spamming the url at the tables.

[citanul]

i was shocked that prophecy changed their interface from web to downloadable program. it seemed like a terrible move for basically exactly this reason.

i have never, nor will i ever, use(d) prophecy, for a variety of reasons. that's my disclaimer.

but if you've been using it, and it's against the T&C of the site, well, sucks for you. they are entirely within their rights to forfeit the funds.

citanul

[bkbluedevil]

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but if you've been using it, and it's against the T&C of the site, well, sucks for you. they are entirely within their rights to forfeit the funds.


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Except their terms are really vague and I had no idea this was against them. I wish party poker would set up a webpage where they would say which software is allowed and which isn't. Also I disagree that they should be able to close my account for something like this. It's not like I'm winning these things because I'm using this software (and I rarely use it at that).

[citanul]

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Except their terms are really vague and I had no idea this was against them. I wish party poker would set up a webpage where they would say which software is allowed and which isn't. Also I disagree that they should be able to close my account for something like this. It's not like I'm winning these things because I'm using this software (and I rarely use it at that).

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Thank you for contacting us.

PartyPoker strictly prohibits usage of programs that:

1) Automate playing of the hand in any way

2) Participate in collusion or any other cheating methods

3) Use any information which may provide you with an unfair advantage through cheating

We detect and block programs that fall in any of the above categories. Usage of such programs may result in poker account closure and funds forfeiture as per our Terms and Conditions.

Regarding your query on 'poker-edge', 'poker-edge' falls in the above categories and usage of 'poker-edge' will result in poker account closure and funds forfeiture as per our Terms and Conditions.

In regards to ýpokertracker and playerviewý, please note that our teams of game experts, in consultation with the Technical team are constantly evaluating software, in order to determine the suitability of such third party programs and their compatibility with our Poker Client software and Terms and Conditions. At present, we have no immediate plans to block this software, but the situation is under constant review.

Contact us anytime, we are available around the clock to assist you with your account related questions and suggestions.

Sincerely,
Gopichand
Investigations Team
alerts@Partypoker.com<br />
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perhaps if you believe you are not being in any way aided in your "winning of these things" by the software, you should not use it?

citanul

[bkbluedevil]

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Except their terms are really vague and I had no idea this was against them. I wish party poker would set up a webpage where they would say which software is allowed and which isn't. Also I disagree that they should be able to close my account for something like this. It's not like I'm winning these things because I'm using this software (and I rarely use it at that).

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Thank you for contacting us.

PartyPoker strictly prohibits usage of programs that:

1) Automate playing of the hand in any way

2) Participate in collusion or any other cheating methods

3) Use any information which may provide you with an unfair advantage through cheating

We detect and block programs that fall in any of the above categories. Usage of such programs may result in poker account closure and funds forfeiture as per our Terms and Conditions.

Regarding your query on 'poker-edge', 'poker-edge' falls in the above categories and usage of 'poker-edge' will result in poker account closure and funds forfeiture as per our Terms and Conditions.

In regards to ýpokertracker and playerviewý, please note that our teams of game experts, in consultation with the Technical team are constantly evaluating software, in order to determine the suitability of such third party programs and their compatibility with our Poker Client software and Terms and Conditions. At present, we have no immediate plans to block this software, but the situation is under constant review.

Contact us anytime, we are available around the clock to assist you with your account related questions and suggestions.

Sincerely,
Gopichand
Investigations Team
alerts@Partypoker.com&lt;br /&gt;
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perhaps if you believe you are not being in any way aided in your "winning of these things" by the software, you should not use it?

citanul

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Citanul,

Quit being an ass. I hardly see how prophecy violates any of those things and how you can say PP woulud be right to close my account. Prophecy isn't collusion. It doesn't play hands for me. And if it gives me any edge at all it's not cheating. Would a real casino take all your chips if you bought another pros notebook detailing players (which would give you much, much more of an edge than prophecy)?

[citanul]

my bad blue, i thought i had cut and pasted the part where support specifically talked about screen scraping and layover. you should really look at the ongoing threads in the zoo. party poker has always and probably will always looked down on the use of programs that do things like overlay, as they provide more direct access to information that other players don't have. again, the thing i cut and pasted i thought had the thing about overlay in it. but it didn't.

i'm pretty sure they are well within their boundaries if they choose to sieze your account though. then again, i'm pretty sure they will not wind up doing it.

citanul

[45suited]

Losing your funds for using PokerProphecy would be like getting a speeding ticket while driving a Yugo.

I can't imagine losing all my money just for using what is essentially a worthless program. Yet another reason not to buy it.

[Slim Pickens]

Of all the stupid [censored]-ing [censored] Party could possibly do, they pick out the one program that sucks too much to possibly give someone an edge at the tables. I have the program, but only as entertainment, and I can't say I've ever gotten a useful piece of information from it. Do these people have any idea who is paying the rake? It's not the donks who deposit $100, lose it, and never play again.

Sorry, I'm just venting. It's irritating and insulting that Party implies that I'm so stupid I think I can gain an advantage by using Prophecy.

[citanul]

fwiw, they're attempting to cut back on ALL the other software, not just prophecy, which i will agree, is a terribly bad service from what i hear.

citanul