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Old 12-09-2005, 09:51 PM
kapw7 kapw7 is offline
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Default Re: Failed check/raise on turn I get him om river.

We are ahead of:
99 (6 ways) TT (6) QQ (6) AQ (16) AJ (12) Total: 46

We are behind of:
AA (6) KK (1) JJ (3) AK (8) KQs (2). Total: 20

So maths only make us 46:20 favorites.
I'm afraid the WA/WB line has become an excuse for playing weak tight.
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:08 PM
MrWookie47 MrWookie47 is offline
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Default Re: Failed check/raise on turn I get him om river.

I don't know how many 13% PFRs 3bet AJ, even in this spot. Furthermore, a flop c/r is still probably not best, even if we take this range as gospel. It lets him off easy with a lot of those hands.
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: Failed check/raise on turn I get him om river.

i agree 100%. check-raise the flop.
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Old 12-10-2005, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: Failed check/raise on turn I get him om river.

Well maybe it ain't so much WA/WB however I steel don't see which hands he'll give us action with that we beat here.

A good thing with a c/r could be that it gives us the initiative and therefor he won't get a freecard on turn as it played out in my hand
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Old 12-10-2005, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: Failed check/raise on turn I get him om river.

I have given this a bounch of thoughts and theres no doubt that I'll make more money in the long run by checkraising the flop. Sure enough It'll suck to be threebettet but against this player we can lay it down on the turn UI if he does 3-bet flop.

By C/R we get initiative and we charge him when he's drawing since most all he's hands have outs against us. And we also prevent any freecards which actually is a very good reason to get the initiative back since freecards sucks.
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:21 AM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: Failed check/raise on turn I get him om river.

I donk the flop, call a flop raise and c/r this turn.

If a 9 hadn't come, i'd bet-fold the turn.

Once the turn is checked through, the river c/r is sweeeet.
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