not sure if I played this correctly

joop · #1 02-17-2005, 12:50 PM

Paradise Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG folds, Hero calls.

River: (12 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Results in white below: 
SB has 7h 8c (two pair, eights and sevens).
Hero has Jd Qh (one pair, queens).
Outcome: SB wins 14 BB. 

How else could/should I have played this?

dkernler · #2 02-17-2005, 12:53 PM

Why are you raising this flop? You have 3 outs if you're lucky. Fold.

shakingspear · #3 02-17-2005, 12:56 PM

It doesn't seem like you have much going for you on the flop except a couple of overcards. I would fold the flop.

joop · #4 02-17-2005, 01:16 PM

I guess you're both right. I figured I had 6 outs as any queen or jack would give me top pair? So I raised to get a free card on the turn, not expecting it to get re-raised.

dkernler · #5 02-17-2005, 01:18 PM

Don't count overcards as full outs. SB could just as easily have J8s and be betting TP. Reverse domination sucks.

jar · #6 02-17-2005, 01:19 PM

You can't count overcard outs as full outs, because you'll often hit and still be behind.

NoResults · #7 02-17-2005, 01:29 PM

Analysis in white below:
Fold preflop, you lost the hand.

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Thanks,
NoResults

joop · #8 02-17-2005, 01:43 PM

No worries. I will know for next time. Thanks!

And thanks to everyone else for their advice also.

jack spade23 · #9 02-17-2005, 03:16 PM

Personally, I hate J Q off. On the button however, with all those callers, i understand the pf call. Now, with that flop and all those players, even if you hit on the turn you're probably still behind. Unless you have reads on all of them that say they will call with middle pair all day long, you should probably fold.