What to do when a bad player at the table asks you about his play

Mens Rea · #1 06-12-2005, 05:26 PM

In a game at a local casino last night, a guy sits down who obviously has not had much experience playing no-limit. I'd been playing for a while and had a decent stack in front of me, so I guess he assumed I was a good person to ask for advice. This guy was awful. Some of his plays: Calling a significant all-in with AQ on a KJx board. Calling a big bet on a four club board with the 5 of clubs. Calling a river bet with a hand like 45 on a board of KK457. He burned through 8-10 buyins before he went broke. Great guy to have at your table.

My question is this: What do you do when this player turns to you and asks, "Did I play that right?" "You would have called with the straight draw too, right? (Hand 1 above)" "I can't lay down a flush there right? (Hand 2)"

I'm somewhat torn here. While I would never tap the glass and do anything that would stop a player from playing like a fish, it just feels different to look at another player and tell him that there is no way I could lay down the 7 of clubs on a four club board. What do you do here? I couldn't just ignore him? Is it acceptable to actively give the wrong advice or to deliberately mislead a player who obviously has no idea what they are doing. I ended up breaking this guy when he pushed in on a board of 6 7 J 10 when I had a pair and a flush draw. He turned over 3 4 offsuit. Let me know what you guys think.

Sabrazack · #2 06-12-2005, 05:41 PM

Just say "Sorry, im here to make money, and teaching you how to play well is clearly not going to help me doing that" and then smile at him [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Mens Rea · #3 06-12-2005, 05:51 PM

First, that makes me seem unfriendly. Second, I don't want anyone else at the table knowing I'm there to make money. I have a table image that says I'm there to have fun and hang - and I get action because of it. I don't want to lose it to freeze this guy by telling him I can't help him. And don't get me wrong, it made me feel a little bad telling this guy that calling $200 with a gutshot is a play I make all the time, but if he is there the next time, I'll tell him the same thing. I'm just curious if others feel the same way.

Jazza · #4 06-12-2005, 06:05 PM

the best i can come up with here is give the response:

"yeah if you want to gamble"

bernie · #5 06-12-2005, 06:16 PM

You agree with them.

If pressed further, you just say, 'what do I know? I'm just hoping to hit a hand myself.'

Basically you act somewhat as clueless as they are.

b

Mens Rea · #6 06-12-2005, 06:17 PM

This is pretty much the approach I took.

bobdibble · #7 06-12-2005, 06:18 PM

"I'm not sure, but you can't win by folding"

fimbulwinter · #8 06-12-2005, 07:14 PM

"hahaha, you don't wanna know how badly i would have played that one"

works best if you're barely peeking over a mountain of chips.

fim

smartalecc5 · #9 06-13-2005, 12:00 AM

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You agree with them.

If pressed further, you just say, 'what do I know? I'm just hoping to hit a hand myself.'

Basically you act somewhat as clueless as they are.

b

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I concur. Agree with them.

TheCroShow · #10 06-13-2005, 05:55 AM

be vague that is what i do. just say "that hand could have gone either way." or "cannot fault you for calling that down, after all, YOU DID have 2 pair (45 on a board of KK45x...lol) Just be vague and if he is pissing away his money, just assume he can afford to lose it. You are there to make money, not to make friends and certainly not to tap the glass.