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Old 12-20-2005, 12:52 PM
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Default Got married to my preflop raise, where should I get a divorce?

Prima 0,5/1
Av/ Vpt.22-24

Hero is on MP2 with Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
MP3 -rock,19/3/0.7 -90hands
BB - sLAP 20/6/0.7 -160 hands

Preflop
Hero raises first in, MP3 calls, BB calls.

Flop (7.5SB) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, BB calls.

Turn (4.75BB) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, BB folds, Hero calls.

I am not confident in flop, cause rock called my pfraise, but I think on this flop bet and check/fold are almost equal.
I have not got enough pot odds to continue on turn, if any of my opponents have decent hands, but if they have only overcards, the probability of improving to the best hand on river and probability of my bluff success, make my bet more valuable, although I think the bet here is a bit overplay, especialy, if MP3 slowplay something like QQ.
Turn call is bad, implied odds are only 1:9.5-10.5, although I won this hand.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:56 PM
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i wouldn't bet the turn.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: Got married to my preflop raise, where should I get a divorce?

I agree with your analysis - I'm not crazy about the turn bet, and I really don't like calling the raise here.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:59 PM
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Check the turn.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:00 PM
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I am also not crazy about the turn bet. This is a check/fold for me.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:01 PM
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19/3 is not a rock.
i call on the turn, since you have somewhere between 3 and 10 outs.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:10 PM
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19/3 is not a rock.
i call on the turn, since you have somewhere between 3 and 10 outs.

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I think there is maximum 5 outs, with TT and JJ MP3, perhaps, would raise on the flop. I think he has QQ and above - its definitely 4 outs.

Of course MP3 is not a rock, "rock" - is his icon name according to BisonBison autorate rules [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:12 PM
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19/3 is not a rock.
i call on the turn, since you have somewhere between 3 and 10 outs.

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Do you really think the overcard outs can be any good?
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:13 PM
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I prefer to check/call this turn and fold the river unimproved.

When you're called by 2 players on the flop here you're likely up against at least one made hand so you don't have enough folding equity to put in a bet on the turn (if it became heads up I would definitely bet again though). However, there's a good chance you will improve to the best hand as a T is almost always an out and a Q/J are usually good enough as well.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:14 PM
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Do you really think the overcard outs can be any good?

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Absolutely. It would be much different if this player raised preflop.
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