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Old 12-15-2005, 10:09 PM
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Default 10/20 Hand

I am in SB with JhJs. Players at the table seem generally aggressive, no huge reads(im 4 tabling) AND WHY THE [censored] IS CONVERTER NOT WORKING.

Button raises, I 3 bet, Button calls

Flop 6d, 7s, 7d
I bet, button calls

Turn Ts
I bet, button raises, I call.

River Ah
I bet, button raises, I fold.
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:13 PM
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I 3bet the turn everytime because he usually has Tx or like 55/ 88 etc. After your turn play, your river play is probably optimal against a predictable opponent who will check through with hands I listed in sentence 1 but not bluffraise a bet.

Your only read was that he is "generally aggressive." In my mind this means I cannot trust him enough to bet fold. A bluff with a busted spade draw or random KJ hands are possible.

The big problem is not 3betting the turn imo.
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:14 PM
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I would have 3 bet the turn, if it wasn't a T. Just cuz 89 drew out too. If flop was 556, and turn was a T, I am definitely 3 betting. Is this good or bad?
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:17 PM
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umm, you're putting him on 89?? There's like a gazillion other hands that you are ahead of. Plus 89 raises the flop the vast majority of the time. Like 90%
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:20 PM
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what Im saying is his hand range is probably a T, a 7, or a 6 or 89, or some pp. I felt like my 3 betting equity is probably neutral if the turn card didnt help him hit a straight too. I dunno, I play these hands weird. I thought no hand could possibly bluff that ace. Maybe I'm wrong?
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:24 PM
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what Im saying is his hand range is probably a T, a 7, or a 6 or 89, or some pp.

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Uh if that's his range it's an easy raise even if we don't discount 89 because he didn't raise the flop (which is definitely wrong). We are way above 2:1 against that range. What about a spade flush draw by the way? Or a diamond flush draw if you dont think OESDs raise the flop.
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:27 PM
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so assuming i 3 bet the turn, river is easy bet/fold? what if he caps the turn? whats my plan
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:32 PM
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if he caps call down . I don't fold no matter what the river is or what kind of ruckus ensues when you get there
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:33 PM
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ok thanks. btw Im just curious to what ur WTSD % is
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:34 PM
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36.someting
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