Cold calling preflop

[deception5]

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I disagree that KQo and AJo are good cold calls in the SB. I much prefer to 3bet and drive out the BB. These hands prefer HU action. I agree about the good drawing hands, though.

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Against an EP/MP raiser I'd usually coldcall with these rather than 3-bet as well. I think the BB is usually drawing thin here (often with a dominated hand) between the two of us and I'd prefer not to give the EP/MP raiser a chance to cap. A third player in tends to keep the preflop raiser honest as well.

[Guruman]

I'll coldcall an ep raiser with JTs, QTs, T9s, and 89s. (especially if I'm next to act)

I'll coldcall in lp with 44-88 after two other coldcallers (or after just one if the sb and bb have vpips over 50).

I'll just call a raise from the bb if I'm already HU with a hand I want to play that isnt AA-JJ,AK,AQ,or KQ.

[deception5]

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I disagree that KQo and AJo are good cold calls in the SB. I much prefer to 3bet and drive out the BB. These hands prefer HU action. I agree about the good drawing hands, though.

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Against an EP/MP raiser I'd usually coldcall with these rather than 3-bet as well. I think the BB is usually drawing thin here (often with a dominated hand) between the two of us and I'd prefer not to give the EP/MP raiser a chance to cap. A third player in tends to keep the preflop raiser honest as well.

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To clarify, I mean in the SB.

[27offsooot]

I'm never the first to cc, but i will with pairs after one other ccer (and non-tight blinds) or with QJs/ J10s, and some others after two or one and v. loose blinds). Also, if there's a maniac and one idiot cold-caller (which has come up a lot lately [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]), i try to enter the pot with a wide range of hands, and 3-bet the better ones, but just cc with the worse ones.

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is it ever right? i've gotten the impression it isn't. but it could be used profitably for deception purposes?

say for example i'm at a somewhat passive preflop table and UTG raises, i just call with AA-QQ perhaps and everyone else calls. but if i were to raise they would mostly fold.

obviously in late position raising is best to trap bets but what about early on?

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There aren't many positions that you want to play QQ--->AA with more callers.

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[imported_leader]

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is it ever right? i've gotten the impression it isn't. but it could be used profitably for deception purposes?

say for example i'm at a somewhat passive preflop table and UTG raises, i just call with AA-QQ perhaps and everyone else calls. but if i were to raise they would mostly fold.

obviously in late position raising is best to trap bets but what about early on?

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There aren't many positions that you want to play QQ--->AA with more callers.

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I want everyone to call or raise when I have AA-QQ or even AK. Though it's still a raise because you're missing out on a lot of value by just calling.

AA-QQ is good no matter how many callers.

[dealer_toe]

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AA-QQ is good no matter how many callers.

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more callers lowers your equity and raises your variance. If you can stand a ton of variance (not tilt one bit), then you should try and play AA multiway every time.

any time you have more callers you have less equity, so should i not prefer to have any hands multiway?

[dealer_toe]

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any time you have more callers you have less equity, so should i not prefer to have any hands multiway?

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no