I think I have to quit...(NC)

[jmillerdls]

Ok, so like every Saturday the last couple of months (and virtually everyday for that matter), I spent my time playing $20 SNG's. And after tonight, I feel like I have got to quit...go back to cash games.
I can't handle the beats...
After tonight, I have just under 2000 SNG's between the 10's and the 20's. Between the 2 I have a 13% ROI. I am a winning player, although as you can tell, just barely.
However, tonight was just another night where I find myself cursing the computer and slamming my hands against the keyboard.
I played 36 tournies tonight with an ROI of 3.5%. I finished the night with:
1st--1
2nd--6
3rd--9
4th--6
I went through my hand histories and found that in the 21 tournies I was knocked out in 2nd-4th, I had the better hand all in preflop 19 times. In 12 of those, I had my opponent dominated (AAvs.Q4, KKvs85, A6vsA3, AKvsAJ, etc.). Yeah yeah, we all have bad beats.
Almost all of these plays are by the large stack making a move on my from the SB when I'm the BB. I re-raise all in, and they are already priced in and have to call with their junk...and then the BB assuming I'm making a move on them when I have shown nothing but good hands. They call with 85o when they only have me covered by a couple of hundred.

I just don't have the mental ability to overcome night after night of bad beats. I keep thinking that if I go in with the better hand, it will all average out, but I can't wait for it.

Now, bankroll wise, I can handle the swings. I'm not playing at a point where the money is scaring me. It's simply that I get so pissed when they suck out on me...and when I have these days, I just can't stand going all in again, knowing I'm going to have the better hand...and it means nothing.

So, I give up...back to NL50...back to the grind. Was fun while it lasted...well, sometimes.

P.S. yes, I'm a baby...yes, I need to learn about variance...and yes, I'll have to get use to it if I plan to play poker.

[wiggs73]

i stopped reading when i saw that you are frustrated because you barely finished a winner tonight. sit and goes are definitely not for you.

[splashpot]

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poker is definitely not for you.

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The swings will be MUCH worse at 50nl. If you can't handle the swings here, good luck with them in the nl games.

[Hendricks433]

He did say he finished 2000 sngs. He used last night as an example of a bad night he has a lot. Anyway do what makes you happy.

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He did say he finished 2000 sngs. He used last night as an example of a bad night he has a lot. Anyway do what makes you happy.

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If he thinks that ending the night as a slight winner is an example of a bad night, he's going to have some rough, rough nights at 50nl.

[Hendricks433]

Yeah I totally agree. Im just trying to help the brother out alittle.

[jmillerdls]

Well, and this was also part of my point. If I can't handle the swinsgs on a day that I still made a profit...then I clearly have problems with the swings in SNGs.
I don't know...for whatever reason, it just isn't the same. Before trying my hand at SNGs, I played over 30k hands of NL25, and over 10k hands of NL50. I played 8-10 tables. That typically comes out to about 300-450 hands an hour. I rarely ever felt the swings.
In an SNG, you win a hand early and double up...you don't have anything to show for it if you take a terrible beat 10 minutes later when it really matters and you bust out 4th, or when this happens all night and you keep getting 3rd and 2nd and spinning your wheels.
In ring games, when I have 8 tables up and going...I'm busting on some tables but doubling up on others...grinding up and down on some as well...There is immediate reward when I double up...
In an SNG, I can double up early...grind down some, double up again, and still finish 4th place for net loss of $22. In cash games its different, unless of course you are getting some insane action on one paticular table.
Clearly, puting this in the SNG forum is asking for an ass-kicking...but, I do deserve it..I am a baby.

[splashpot]

Well, if you say so, good luck then. But the swings ARE worse at nl cash. No arguing that point.

[jmillerdls]

Yeah, I have heard that SNG's are the least, then NL, then Limit. I just have yet to experience it I guess, or when a 2k hand downswing only takes 4 hours, I can live with that. Well, I assume, I haven't experienced anything like that.
Looking at my old graphs I had a 1k hand downswing that was 300bbs (ouch).
Who knows...it all sucks.
You would think someone that plays as much as me could handle this...

[11t]

I played 50nl almost exclusively and I think the big difference between NL cash games and SNG's are that the swings in NL cash seem more controlable than in SNG's. I mean in SNG's you are so often just throwing your chips intot he middle and racing that it feels almost like some sort of slot machine.

Also I dunno, after like 35k hands of 50nl my biggest downswing (and this is probably just huge blind luck) is 5x the buyin or $250. That is compared to me taking a standrard 20x buyin downswing at the 22's. which is $440.

Perhaps at higher limits the swings get rougher but at the lower limits with donks giving their money away as huge dogs the swings seem to be less if you play good post flop poker.