100% standard AJ raptor hand from sb.. in the 55s at least..

[raptor517]

***** Hand History for Game 2506106721 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14690139 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Tuesday, August 09, 16:40:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 11900 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: hold___fold ( $1055 )
Seat 3: Itachi86 ( $985 )
Seat 5: lanford ( $1550 )
Seat 10: eddyk4 ( $980 )
Seat 7: Domanooch ( $975 )
Seat 2: MrSneakers ( $730 )
Seat 8: cubanacan ( $930 )
Seat 1: CATCH8 ( $795 )
Seat 9: TopSet69 ( $1045 )
Seat 4: HeelofTar ( $955 )
Trny:14690139 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Itachi86 [ As Js ]
lanford folds.
hold___fold folds.
Domanooch folds.
cubanacan folds.
TopSet69 folds.
eddyk4 calls [15].
CATCH8 calls [15].
MrSneakers folds.
>You have options at Table 12059 Table!.
Itachi86 calls [5].
HeelofTar checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 9d, Ac ]
Itachi86 checks.
HeelofTar checks.
eddyk4 bets [15].
CATCH8 folds.
Itachi86 calls [15].
HeelofTar calls [15].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
Itachi86 checks.
HeelofTar checks.
>You have options at Table 12059 Table!.
eddyk4 bets [60].
Itachi86 folds.

hmm.. i love discussions.. GO!! holla

[durron597]

Why are you calling the flop bet? Hoping to catch a J?

Bet flop, fold to raise. If called, check/fold turn, if check behind turn, check call river.

[raptor517]

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Why are you calling the flop bet? Hoping to catch a J?

Bet flop, fold to raise. If called, check/fold turn, if check behind turn, check call river.

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thats just bad advice plain and simple. holla

edit.. as for why i call the flop? are u kidding? why is everyone scared to see a turn? holla

[durron597]

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thats just bad advice plain and simple. holla

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Well then enlighten me. I like the line more than yours, at least I extract value sometimes. Unless you think this hand is enough of a trap that you should never put chips in.

AJo is my most profitable hand, even more than AA.

Edit: scratch that, AA has passed AJo (they were very close last I checked)

[Sabrazack]

This is a 50+5, i dont knopw how much different they are from the 20+2 that i play. But what makes you so certain that your TP is no good here?

[gumpzilla]

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edit.. as for why i call the flop? are u kidding? why is everyone scared to see a turn? holla

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What turn is going to make you want to continue with this hand? A J? Gives you two pair, but also opens the doors to a fair number of draws that are realistic coming from this many limpers. I'm guessing an A coming isn't going to make you feel much better, either. The turn comes about as blank as it can and you're check folding. In this situation, I guess I don't really see the point of continuing past the flop if you're going to take this approach to the hand.

I'm probably leading on the turn, and if I get raised, then I'm done with it.

[raptor517]

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edit.. as for why i call the flop? are u kidding? why is everyone scared to see a turn? holla

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What turn is going to make you want to continue with this hand? A J? Gives you two pair, but also opens the doors to a fair number of draws that are realistic coming from this many limpers. I'm guessing an A coming isn't going to make you feel much better, either. The turn comes about as blank as it can and you're check folding. In this situation, I guess I don't really see the point of continuing past the flop if you're going to take this approach to the hand.

I'm probably leading on the turn, and if I get raised, then I'm done with it.

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jeeeez.. yall gotta learn to open up yer minds. im not always just calling to improve my hand. have yall never played a NL cash game or a mtt before? holla

[Unarmed]

Enlighten me man, I'm serious. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Because from Villain's perspective I see two guys check call a min bet on the flop and check the turn to me. I need two cards and a pulse to throw out 60 chips.

[gumpzilla]

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jeeeez.. yall gotta learn to open up yer minds. im not always just calling to improve my hand. have yall never played a NL cash game or a mtt before? holla

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I don't see your point. You're calling hoping that there'll be no more bets so you can win a miniscule pot with top pair good kicker? It seems kind of unlikely that there's going to be no more betting through the hand. You're calling to show that you won't fold to a minbet, just a minbet followed by more turn action? My mind is open, just say something.

[fnord_too]

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jeeeez.. yall gotta learn to open up yer minds. im not always just calling to improve my hand. have yall never played a NL cash game or a mtt before? holla

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This is how you play this hand in a cash game or (early in) an MTT? Man, I hate this line tons more in either of those situations. (I've played lots more cash games and MTT's than S&G's. When I get the S&G count up I may hate the line equally there [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])