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Old 11-17-2005, 07:08 AM
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Default Too Agressive with Low pair?

Little history about previous play. No real reads on villain, haven't seen him get out of line. I have been playing like a weak tight nit, playing 3 hands total 20-25 minute into the tournament and have folded all to flop bets in multi-way pots. I figured because of my rock type image, entering a put would give me credibility for holding a strong hand.

NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $20+$2 (real money), #1,483,055,467
Stockholm Single Table Tournament, 17 Nov 2005 5:44 AM ET
Seat 1: Villain (Big Blind) ($1,600 in chips)
Seat 2: ($1,520 in chips)
Seat 3: ($4,135 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero (MP) ($1,365 in chips)
Seat 6: ($1,635 in chips)
Seat 8: ($1,475 in chips)
Seat 9: ($2,530 in chips)
Seat 10: Small blind ($740 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
seat 10 posts blind ($25), Villain posts blind ($50).

Dealt to hero [ 4H,4C ]

PRE-FLOP
fold, fold, Hero bets $200, fold, fold, fold, fold, Villain calls $150.

FLOP [board cards 9H,JS,3D ]
Villain bets $300, Hero bets $1,165 and is all-in

Good bad? horrible? results to come
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: Too Agressive with Low pair?

I don't like this at all, raising 4bb from EP with 44? The flop play also seems really bad. Sorry, I think this line is pretty awful.
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: Too Agressive with Low pair?

Firstly, I fold preflop. Your position isn't good enough to raise with here, though I'd be considering it from button/CO/CO+1.

Secondly, I fold the flop. A reraise beats a bluff, and what evidence do you have that he's on a bluff? It seems to me that you're throwing your chips away here, without some kind of ninja read.
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: Too Agressive with Low pair?

Is an open-limp out of the question?
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:16 AM
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Default Re: Too Agressive with Low pair?

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Is an open-limp out of the question?

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Limping is fine with these stacks.
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Too Agressive with Low pair?

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Is an open-limp out of the question?

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Limping is fine with these stacks.

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Limp here only if your opponents suck, and you expect limpers behind, and you're pretty sure noone will raise and you can play a multiway pot for set value. If your opponents don't suck that bad then openlimping with this hand is asking for trouble.
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: Too Agressive with Low pair?

Given your "rock type image" do you really think villian is bluffing? If he's not bluffing, you've got to think he'll put you on a big pocket pair and be willing to fold something like top pair good kicker. I wouldn't want to depend upon villian to make such a laydown when all my chips are on the line.
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: Too Agressive with Low pair?

I don't like an open limp here so if I choose to enter the pot (and sometimes I would just fold) I'm coming in for t150. If somebody had already limped I would limp behind. I fold to the flop bet.
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